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Another coup attempt in Venezuela? Sources say rebellion imminent if Chavez continues in office
STRATFOR ^ | May 16, 2002

Posted on 05/16/2002 2:47:00 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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1 posted on 05/16/2002 2:47:00 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Coup, Part Deux........
2 posted on 05/16/2002 2:50:36 PM PDT by cmsgop
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3 posted on 05/16/2002 2:53:51 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Fingers and toes crossed.

I read an earlier posting today that discussed the "Bolivarian Circles." I didn't realize that they had been in place since Chavez' first coup attempt (93?). Obviously, they weren't as powerful as they are now, but it's interesting that the Chavez infrastructure had been put in place some time ago.

I hope, if there are any plans to - er, "replace" - Chavez with another round of elections, the planners are more organized than last time and have a clear and pre-determined objective.

As for Chavez' going to Madrid with 40 pieces of luggage, this may be meaningless. Dictators never travel light.

4 posted on 05/16/2002 2:55:29 PM PDT by livius
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To: Tailgunner Joe
One hopes that great friend of democracy to the north will
support the legally elected government of Venez...--

HAHAHAHA
No, I guess I can't keep a straight face and think BushCo
believes in democracy. Who could??

5 posted on 05/16/2002 2:58:26 PM PDT by KenPhil
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To: cmsgop
Chavez won't survive this one....the MISTAKE made during the first coup....was they left him alive...won't happen a second time....:-)
6 posted on 05/16/2002 3:11:33 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Rightuvu
If at first you don't succeed...Mr.Wint

Try,Try Again Mr.Kid.

Can You Tell Me What Movie That is from....:*)
8 posted on 05/16/2002 3:16:55 PM PDT by cmsgop
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Mr.Roberts?
9 posted on 05/16/2002 3:18:21 PM PDT by Dog
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To: KenPhil
Democracy sucks read Alexander Tyler and HL Mencken it always leads to socialism.
10 posted on 05/16/2002 3:19:11 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Dog
Nope!
11 posted on 05/16/2002 3:21:54 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: cmsgop
Mutiny on the Bounty!!!!
12 posted on 05/16/2002 3:28:32 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog
NOPE!
13 posted on 05/16/2002 3:29:10 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: cmsgop
Tell me .......or it will drive me crazy all night.....:-)
14 posted on 05/16/2002 3:31:40 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog
James Bond....."Diamonds Are Forever"
15 posted on 05/16/2002 3:32:28 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: Tailgunner Joe
You screw with the oil boys & you will get the Texas horns.
16 posted on 05/16/2002 3:34:32 PM PDT by Digger
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17 posted on 05/16/2002 3:36:03 PM PDT by Fish out of Water
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To: Dog

18 posted on 05/16/2002 3:38:20 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: Dog
Chavez won't survive this one....the MISTAKE made during the first coup....was they left him alive...won't happen a second time....:

I don't put a lot of faith in Stratfor, but it seems likely to me that people who are talking about a coup ane not really intending to do one. People who talk about coups don't do them.

If there is a new coup attempt they will kill not only have to kill Chavez but his main surpporters in the Military and civilian sectors of governmeent. The taking and killing of dozens of people at the same time is very hard to pull off. Many people have to know about it and it is difficult not to be discovered.

An effective method to destablize a goverment is to make them think that a coup is coming any minute. What you try to do is make a Chavez and his loyal Generals think their subordinates are against him. If you can get a couple of Generals to start killing their own poeple, they soon don't have many loyal people to kill and they have underlings gunning for them. That can get you to 70/30 pretty quickly.

I am not sure that a coup is close. I think an attempt to make the Chavez people doubt all those around them is well underway. Playing that game makes it very dangerous for those in power. They tend to shoot themselfves in the foot out of suspicion and fear.

Coups rarely work in a 50/50 nation. You need 70/30 to succeed. The odds are against Chavez succeeding in a Stalinst type purge. That is what it will take for Chavez to get to a secure position. The object is to convince him to try to do that. The last guy to do one successfuly was MAO. Chavez if he tries it will fail. And if he doesn't try, they will subvert his followers.

Stalin and Mao made dictatorship look easy. It ain't.


19 posted on 05/16/2002 4:00:44 PM PDT by Common Tator
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I won’t be sorry to see Chavez go (if this should happen); but my experience in viewing coups firsthand is other greedy people with their own agendas replace them – of course, the coup takes place in the name of “democracy.” Particularly worrisome is when the coup is by the military.
20 posted on 05/16/2002 4:03:43 PM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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