The Second Amendment strikes back!

WorldNetDaily ^ | 15 May 2002 | Larry Elder

[45Auto]

Thomas Paine said, "The peaceable part of mankind will be overrun by the vile and abandoned while they neglect the means of self-defense. [Weakness] allures the ruffian [but] arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world. Horrid mischief would ensue were [the good] deprived of the use of them. The weak will become a prey to the strong."

And to those who think these old guys were just BS'ing, we have a living laboratory of exactly this process going on right now - England. Those idiots at HCI and their sycophantic allies in politics and the press would like to see the whole country turned into a playground for miscreants, a total victim disarmament zone, while they sit smugly in gated communities and penthouses guarded by armed men who they hired. They are the worst kind of hypocrits when it comes to the RKBA - they are gun owners by proxy.

[Joe Brower]

[umgud]

And the first ammendment only applies to the news media, not individuals.

[99tango]

In general, most news media overplay gun related crime while overlooking the successful use of firearms in repelling criminal activity or lessening damage. Rights of Stone was based on the premise of government officials conspiring to increase gun related violence in an effort to create a public outcry which would lead to a repeal of the 2nd Amendment. Visit: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/taube10239/rightsofstone.htm

[Shooter 2.5]

The most remarkable sight to behold is watching people who make their living using words stumble over one sentence.

[Dead Dog]

No Kidding, it scares me to see how many "educated" adults can't understand plain English.

Or is it just the old Marxist/Communist concept that the truth doesn't matter as long as you arrive at the approved conclusion?

[Joe Brower]

If the (fictional) concept of a corrupt and hidden agenda to destroy the 2nd amendment is of interest to you, wait until you see FReeper Travis McGee's upcoming novel. It will grip you like nothing since John Ross' "Unintended Consequences", if you've ever read that work.

I've often commented that the newsmedia no longer employs a camera it's it's portrayals of the RKBA, but a microscope. A very narrow and inordinately magnified field of view, making the proverbial mountain out of a molehill. All this while actual cases of violence have diminished over 30% in the last 8 years, media coverage of same is up 700%. So the bias is quite apparent to anyone who study such things.

[Joe Brower]

A-yep! Put another way:

The very fact that the term of art, "The People", in the Bill of Rights could possibly be miscontrued to mean something other than each individual citizen, as it plainly does in the 1st, 4th, 9th and 10th amendments, is a sad testament to the intellectual dishonesty of our day."

[Jerrybob]

Every election is important, but this one more than most. The liberals will be out to do us in and WE should be out trying to get rid of every anti-gunner at every level of government.

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What part of "...SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED..." do these people not understand?
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Why should I trust a government that doesn't trust me to carry a gun?
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Homeland Security =
CITIZEN CARRY FOR ALL 50 STATES
RECIPROCITY IN ALL 50 STATES

[Robert357]

Interesting article, unfortunately woldnet daily is not a real big name in the media for liberals.

After all, during the Senate confirmation hearings, Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., voted against him saying, "This is not a man who treats people kindly."

I am not sure how Ashcroft can live with himself after that kind of criticism (/sarcasm)

Actually what Cokie Roberts says is encouraging. I also feel that if one looks at state consitutions, one finds that people tried to restate what they thought were their rights to futher guarantee what was importants to make democracy last. A read of the relevant sections of many of the state consitutions talks about how bad standing armies are and how having arms in the hands of citizens is much better and how having arms in the hands of citizens is important for not only the citizen's self defense, but he defense of the state. I think that the arguments for RTKBA is much stronger at a state constitution level in many states than at the federal level, although I concur that it is an individual and absolute right.

[spunkets]

"Rejecting six decades of the government's head-in-sand approach to the Second Amendment"

Hey, Larry Elder called it right. They didn't hold it was a collective state militia right. They held it as a government right to stick their head in the sand and mumble. It was the grabbers and recently the klintonistas that uttered the ridiculous collective right nonsense.

[MamaTexan]

U.S. Code Title 10 defines militia as: "All able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

WRONG!
Since the government didn't give me my rights, it has no power to codify them.

Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

[MrB]

what Cokie Roberts says is encouraging

Cokie is experiencing cognitive dissonance. She knows what she wants to believe, and feels is right. But that doesn't square with all the facts and documentation that she has dug up.

[Mike-o-Matic]

Anti-Second Amendment people like Rosie O'Donnell argue that the reference to "the militia" in the Second Amendment means National Guard. And, goes the reasoning, since states possess National Guards – our "militia" – why do individuals need a right to keep and bear arms?

Yeah... after all, average citizens are not her (or her kids') bodyguards.

O'Donnell is a hypocrite of the highest order. She could give a rat's furry (__)__) about the rest of us, so long as she has her private merc army.

[300winmag]

And the first ammendment only applies to the news media, not individuals.

Actually, using the (non)logic of the libs, it only applies to hand-cranked flatbed presses. Not to those new-fangled motorized and computerized monstrosities.

Why, if they could have foreseen the danger posed by modern print and electronic media, they would have never approved the First Ammendment, even in its limited degree. :)

[Lurker]

There's only one comma in the 2nd Amendment.

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[Travis McGee]

"If the BATF was run like the INS, you could keep an unlicensed howitzer in your backyard and fire it across the city any time you felt like it.

If the INS was run like the BATF, every illegal alien in America would be arrested, deported or shot in less than one month."

[Dan Cooper]

Rejecting six decades of the government's head-in-sand approach to the Second Amendment, Attorney General John Ashcroft now says the founding fathers meant what they said and said what they meant. The Second Amendment confers an individual's right to keep and bear arms.

Whoops, Mr. Elder. The Second Amendment doesn't confer anything. It states what the Constitutional Government cannot do, namely infringe the right of the people to keep and bear arms. Let's not muddy the water anymore than it already is.

[MamaTexan]

I pulled it from here:
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/const/bor.html

And my copy of the Constitution has 3 commas in the 2nd Amendment as well.

Do you have a comment to make about the article, or are you just going to nitpick?

[Teacher317]

This image is the joint resolution of Congress proposing 12 articles as amendments to the Constitution and was enrolled on parchment by William Lambert, a Clerk of the House. It was signed by Frederick Augustus Muhlenberg, Speaker of the House, on September 28, 1789, and by John Adams, President of the Senate, shortly thereafter. The Bill of Rights, as this parchment copy is now known, is on permanent display in the Rotunda of the National Archives. The "Article the Fourth" line is where you'll find the Second Amendment. It does appear to have 3 commas, but you need a pretty good monitor and two sharp eyes to see them.