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To: Ohioan
I think that you need to read the treaty. In it the United Kingdom is making peace with a single nation, The United States, and not with 13 separate entities. The treaty mentions the United State 18 times and the individual states only once, and then as a definition of the term 'United States'. To say that this somehow means that Great Britain refused to recognize the United States as a single county or that this treaty somehow supercedes the Constitution is ridiculous.
113 posted on 05/17/2002 9:36:12 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
We did not ask to be recognized as a single country. From the Declaration on we were a group of States. The very name the United States--not America--as the name says it all. English has a normal meaning. The term United States is not the same as the term France. It is not the same as the term United Kingdom (note the singular, although it really was based on a unity of several kingdoms). The term United States is always a plural.

You are engaged in a ridiculous word game, that starts without bothering to actually read the meaning of the words you use.

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115 posted on 05/17/2002 9:44:51 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Non-Sequitur
I think that you need to read the treaty. In it the United Kingdom is making peace with a single nation, The United States, and not with 13 separate entities. The treaty mentions the United State 18 times and the individual states only once, and then as a definition of the term 'United States'.

Actually they're not. Reread it. Just from Article 1 and 2 of said treaty. Of course you know the first

His Brittanic Majesty acknowledges the said United States, viz., New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia, to be free sovereign and independent states,

Article 2
And that all disputes which might arise in future on the subject of the boundaries of the said United States may be prevented, it is hereby agreed and declared, that the following are and shall be their boundaries

Interesting that if the treaty was signed with the United StateS as a whole entity, the correct grammar would have been its boundaries instead of THEIR (plural meaning more than one entituy

120 posted on 05/17/2002 10:06:38 AM PDT by billbears
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