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Constitutional Con Men
LewRockwell.com ^ | May 15, 2002 | Thomas DiLorenzo

Posted on 05/16/2002 11:37:00 AM PDT by Aurelius

During my May 7 debate with Harry Jaffa at the Independent Institute in Oakland, California, Jaffa made several statements that literally caused some jaws to drop in the audience along with looks of utter disbelief. (His supporters grinned and nodded approvingly). He stated, for instance, that "Lincoln never did anything that was unconstitutional;" that Virginia never reserved the right to withdraw from the Union when she ratified the Constitution; and that the British government never recognized the colonies or states individually in the Treaty of Paris. There was never any such thing as state sovereignty, in other words, and nothing Lincoln ever did – even unilaterally suspending the writ of habeas corpus and having the military arrest thousands of Northern citizens – violated the Constitution.

One gets a very different perspective if one reads Jonathan Elliot’s Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution, edited by James McClellan and Mel Bradford and reprinted by J. River Press in 1989 – or the original ratification documents, for that matter. One finds that this is what the Virginia delegates said:

We, the delegates of the people of Virginia . . . Do, in the name and behalf of the people of Virginia, declare and make known that the powers granted under the Constitution being derived from the people of the United States may be resumed by them whensoever the same shall be perverted to their injury or oppression, and that every power not granted thereby remains with them at their will . . .

New York made a similar declaration: "We, the delegates of the people of New York . . . do declare and make known that the powers of government may be reassumed by the people whenever it shall become necessary to their happiness . . ." And Rhode Island made an almost identical declaration: "We, the delegates of the people of Rhode Island and Plantations, duly elected . . . do declare and make known . . . that the powers of government may be resumed by the people whenever it shall become necessary to their happiness . . ."

Jaffa is the master of what Joe Stromberg calls the "dark art" of "reinterpreting" documents such as these to mean not what they say in plain English but what he wishes them to say in a way that is consistent with his political proclivities.

During the debate Jaffa relied on his quite substantial reputation to simply declare that the British government did not recognize the states individually in the 1783 Treaty of Paris at the conclusion of the American Revolution. I could only respond that I made it a point to re-read the treaty in preparation for the debate, and that Jaffa was wrong. I should have brought a copy of the Treaty with me, for here is what Article I says:

His Britannic Majesty acknowledges the said United States, viz. New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island, and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia, to be free, sovereign and independent States; and he treats with them as such, and for himself, his heirs and successors, relinquishes all claims to the Government, proprietory and territorial rights of the same, and every part thereof. ("Treaty with Great Britain," in Charles Eliot, ed., The Harvard Classics, vol. 43,

This is important, for the founding documents consistently make the point that the states are sovereign and are establishing a Union to act as their agent. That’s why, whenever the phrase "United States" appears in the Constitution, it is in the plural – to signify that the individual sovereign states were voluntarily banding together to form the Union. This use of language was turned on its head by force of arms from 1861 to 1865 when, as Shelby Foote writes in his book, The Civil War, Americans quit saying "the United States are" and began saying "the United States is," signifying the transformation from a confederacy of sovereign states to a consolidated, monolithic empire.

The one comment of Jaffa’s that drew gasps and looks of disbelief was his insistence that Lincoln never did anything that was unconstitutional. These people were obviously aware that the Constitution does not provide for a dictator but a president, and that generations of historians have referred to Lincoln as a "dictator" but a benevolent one. "Dictatorship played a decisive role in the North’s successful effort to maintain the Union by force of arms," wrote Clinton Rossiter in Constitutional Dictatorship. Lincoln’s "amazing disregard for the Constitution was considered by nobody as legal," Rossiter also proclaimed. "If Lincoln was a dictator, it must be admitted that he was a benevolent dictator," wrote James Ford Rhodes in his History of the United States, a statement that was repeated almost verbatim by James G. Randall in Constitutional Problems Under Lincoln.

The main reason why generations of historians have labeled Lincoln a dictator (but also made an ends-justify-the-means defense of his dictatorial behavior) is probably the fact that on April 27, 1861, two weeks after Fort Sumter, he unilaterally suspended the writ of habeas corpus and eventually ordered the federal army to arrest between 13,000 and 38,000 Northern civilians who were suspected of opposing his administration (this is the range of estimates that exists in published literature). These people were never given any due process at all.

The chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, Roger B. Taney, issued an opinion that such an act was unconstitutional because only Congress has the power to do so. He cited former chief Justice John Marshall as saying that "it is for the legislature to say so" if habeas corpus is to be suspended; he cited Justice Joseph Story as concurring with that opinion, as did English and American precedents; and he pointed out that the suspension of habeas corpus appears in the Constitution under the section on legislative, not executive powers.

If an American president can unilaterally suspend habeas corpus, Taney wrote, then "the people of the United States are no longer living under a government of laws; but every citizen holds life, liberty and property at the will and pleasure of the army officer in whose military district he may happen to be found." Lincoln simply ignored Taney’s opinion.

The jaw droppers at the Independent Institute debate must have also been aware of Lincoln’s demolition of the First Amendment during his administration to have reacted with such looks of disbelief. There were hundreds of opposition newspapers in the North, and many of them were shut down and their editors and owners thrown into military prisons without any due process. For example, on May 18, 1864 Lincoln issued an order to General John Dix that read as follows: "You will take possession by military force, of the printing establishments of the New York World and Journal of Commerce . . . and prohibit any further publication thereof . . . you are therefore commanded forthwith to arrest and imprison . . . the editors, proprietors and publishers of aforesaid newspapers." Dix complied, and hundreds of newspapers were censored (see Dean Sprague’s Freedom Under Lincoln).

The history books also discuss how federal troops were ordered to interfere with Northern elections (Lincoln won New York by 7,000 votes in 1864 "with the help of federal bayonets," according to David Donald in Lincoln Reconsidered); all telegraph communication was censored; the railroads were nationalized; new states were created unconstitutionally; and the Tenth Amendment was all but destroyed by the war.

Even Lincoln’s own attorney general, Edward Bates, was of the opinion that Lincoln’s orchestration of the secession of western Virginia from the rest of the state was unconstitutional. Article IV, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution reads: "New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any state be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress" (emphasis added).

West Virginia was unconstitutionally carved out of Virginia, and since it did not even exist as a state, its non-existent legislature could not have consented, as required by the Constitution. A puppet government was established in Alexandria, Virginia, run by Republican Party operatives, which guaranteed a few more electoral votes for Lincoln in the 1864 election.

I’m sure Jaffa can come up with some tongue-twisting, Clintonian "spin" as to why these realities are not really realities. He’s been doing it all his life. And he absolutely must continue doing so, for the entire case against states’ rights rests on the assumption that Lincoln was only enforcing the Constitution when he launched his invasion. The Southern states were dissatisfied with the results of a duly constituted election, and that is no reason to secede. Jaffa repeated this during the debate and has done so in many of his writings. His position is that no state ever has a right to secede, for any reason, as long as the constitutional rules of elections are followed. Presumably, this would hold true if say, a Southern sectional candidate were to be elected president and, with his party in control of Congress, enacted a flat 80 percent income tax on the Northern states and a 20 percent flat tax on the Southern states, while making interstate migration illegal. That was roughly the tax situation after Lincoln was elected, with Southerners paying as much as 80 percent of all tariff revenues which, at the time, were the primary form of federal taxation.

If Lincoln was not, in fact, a devoted champion of the Constitution, the whole anti-states’ rights house of cards collapses. If he disregarded the Constitution and acted like a dictator, no matter how noble his ends might have been, then the sanctity-of-the-Constitution argument against secession goes out the window. This, in my opinion, is why Jaffa must continue to make such outrageously ahistorical statements.


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1 posted on 05/16/2002 11:37:00 AM PDT by Aurelius
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To: Shuckmaster;Stainlessbanner
fyi
2 posted on 05/16/2002 11:59:52 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Free the USA
lincoln was not a dictator...he was the war-criminal-in-chief.
3 posted on 05/16/2002 12:11:47 PM PDT by rebelyell
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To: Free the USA
bttt
5 posted on 05/16/2002 12:38:16 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: x;huck;rdf;non-sequitur;ditto;davidjquackenbush
Huckster alert!
6 posted on 05/16/2002 12:40:38 PM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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To: 4ConservativeJustices; one2many; billbears; ConstitutionDay; Alas Babylon!; Colt .45; aomagrat...
"....the people of the United States are no longer living under a government of laws..."
7 posted on 05/16/2002 12:42:00 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Aurelius
Scribble, scribble, scribble, Dr. D.
8 posted on 05/16/2002 12:43:50 PM PDT by rdf
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To: WhiskeyPapa
He stated, for instance, that "Lincoln never did anything that was unconstitutional;" that Virginia never reserved the right to withdraw from the Union when she ratified the Constitution; and that the British government never recognized the colonies or states individually in the Treaty of Paris

Call 'em all Walt!! If Jaffa made a statement like that and it's backed up, you're going to need a lot of help defending a defenseless argument and it only shows he has less respect for the Constitution and the Founders than you do.

9 posted on 05/16/2002 12:45:45 PM PDT by billbears
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To: rdf
We had the right to leave, we were acting upon accepted practices that your northern political ancestors had threatened themselves MORE THAN ONCE, and lincoln was in the wrong
10 posted on 05/16/2002 12:47:41 PM PDT by billbears
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To: Aurelius
We, the delegates of the people of Virginia . . . Do, in the name and behalf of the people of Virginia, declare and make known that the powers granted under the Constitution being derived from the people of the United States may be resumed by them whensoever ...

That's funny. I was reading the Virginia debates just the other day. Later on, I was pondering just this very thing, the language contained in the ratification documents. The question I have always had is what legal force such declarations have on the actual operation of the Constitution, and it seems to me the answer would be none. Otherwise, each state had, in effect, the ability to unilaterally amend the Constitution. They could say "we agree only if X" or "we agree but do not recognize Z." It doesn't work that way, it seems to me.

However, it does provide very specific information to the State government about the spirit of the state government at the time of the ratification, and what their own views and intentions were. Therefore, a Virginian in 1858 couldn't say (IMO) that the Virginia Ratification document contains legal language to which the general government is bound, because nowhere in the Constitution does it provide for the acceptance or rejection of anything other than a yes or no ratification. The general government is not empowered to entertain what are, in contractual terms, riders.

But a Virginian of 1858 could rightly say that the spirit in which the Constitution was ratified is indicated in this document, which was agreed upon by the government of Virginia, and they could take that for what it's worth.

That's my personal take on it. I have never seen anything that explains how something in a state-authored ratification document can dictate terms to a Constitution which was agreed upon in a Convention of delegates who set the terms for ratification.

11 posted on 05/16/2002 12:54:55 PM PDT by Huck
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To: Huck
Perhaps the adopters chose to explicity state their conditions instead of leaving it to interpretation or assumption by future politicians. In doing so, we learn their intent.
12 posted on 05/16/2002 12:59:47 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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I didn't get all the way through the Virginia debates. I want to see if they discuss the language in question, and its legal force. If anyone has it, please post it. I would like to here what Madison said, since he was a Framer and a Virginia delegate, but I understand that to some confederates Madison was an evil statist. All the same, I'd like to see what he or Mason or Henry had to say. All sides from the actual participants are interesting and helpful.
13 posted on 05/16/2002 1:00:30 PM PDT by Huck
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To: billbears
We had the right to leave...

How old are you?

14 posted on 05/16/2002 1:02:59 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: stainlessbanner
Thanks for the ping.

From Virginia's resolution of May 15, 1776 instructing the Virginia delegates in the Continental Congress to propose to that body to declare the colonies free and independent States:

Resolved, unanimously, That the Delegates appointed to represent this Colony in General Congress be instructed to propose to that respectable body to declare the United Colonies free and independent States, absolved from all allegiance to, or dependence upon, the Crown or Parliament of Great Britain; and that they give the assent of this Colony to such declaration, and to whatever measures may be thought proper and necessary by the Congress for forming foreign alliances, and a Confederation of the Colonies, at such time and in the manner as to them shall seem best: Provided, That the power of forming Government for, and the regulations of the internal concerns of each Colony, be left to the respective Colonial Legislatures.

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Notice the use of the plural "States" and notice the last statement. Seems pretty obvious that the States were to retain their sovereignty.

15 posted on 05/16/2002 1:03:21 PM PDT by aomagrat
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To: Huck
Mr. DiLorenzo discounts James Madison, I guess.

"Lastly, it would facilitate and foster the baneful practice of secessions; a practice which has shown itself even in States where a majority only is required; a practice subversive of all the principles of order and regular government; a practice which leads more directly to public convulsions, and the ruin of popular governments, than any other which has yet been displayed among us."

--From Federalist 58

Walt

16 posted on 05/16/2002 1:04:40 PM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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To: stainlessbanner
Perhaps the adopters chose to explicity state their conditions instead of leaving it to interpretation or assumption by future politicians. In doing so, we learn their intent.

I agree that we learn their intent. I just don't know that the words count for any more than that. I believe many states put in their ratification docs their version of a bill of rights, because that was a real sticking point. Madison, when he ran for the first Congress, promised to bring it up for a vote. But neither he nor the general government were compelled by the state ratification docs to do so. That is, it wasn't a binding act. The only aspect that was binding was the ratification. That set the government in motion. Madison fulfilled his promise (to his credit, for he personally opposed the idea). But I don't think the Constitution's legal force was dependent upon it, though the participation of all the states may have. As you say, it was a statement of intent.

17 posted on 05/16/2002 1:05:13 PM PDT by Huck
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To: Ditto
My ancestors had the right to leave, excuse me. I am from their blood and I consider their fight for freedom from the tyranny of Washington to be just as important, if not more important, today than it was then
18 posted on 05/16/2002 1:05:33 PM PDT by billbears
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Mr. DiLorenzo discounts James Madison, I guess.

There was a recent thread, I forget if DiLorenzo was involved with it, that identified Madison as an evil monarchist. What does that make John Adams??? A fascist?

19 posted on 05/16/2002 1:08:23 PM PDT by Huck
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Try this on for size:

If Davis was not, in fact, a devoted champion of the Constitution, the whole states’ rights house of cards collapses. If he disregarded the Constitution and acted like a dictator, no matter how noble his ends might have been, then the sanctity-of-the-Constitution argument against secession goes out the window. This, in my opinion, is why Di Lorenzo must continue to make such outrageously ahistorical statements.

Any political leader would take steps to prevent a slide into anarchy that would doom the union and the Constitution. What would we think of an elected political magistrate who didn't take such steps while those in arms against the constitutionally elected government used all means in their power to overthrow it?

The choice of the secessionists to establish their own national government with its own power politics and imperial designs took the crisis to a new level of tension. And when that government took arms against the union war -- and war measures at home on both sides -- was the result.

20 posted on 05/16/2002 1:32:07 PM PDT by x
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