[A Ruckus of Dogs]

Question: what kind of progress, technological advances

In the past, the Arab Muslims make great strides in mathematics, medicine, architecture, and astronomy. Something went wrong later.

[CatoRenasci]

Actually, most of the strides culture attributed to Islam came from cultures subjected to Islam: Persia, India (mathematics), Egypt, Christian Asia Minor and Greece. Islam's cultural record is really pretty bare when you strip out the products of conquered peoples.

[crystalk]

It would not be correct to say that the Muslims MADE those strides. They simply passed them on from Greek originals to other non-Muslim peoples who did not before have them. In the case of our numerals, the originals may have been Hindu...

It is very dubious to say that Muslims ever themselves possessed or used these ideas that they passed on. They are in the position of illiterate booksellers.

[Cicero]

In the past, the Arab Muslims make great strides in mathematics, medicine, architecture, and astronomy. Something went wrong later.

It's not clear whether Musims ever actually had a high civilization. They overran and conquered the most civilized parts of the ancient world, and enslaved a number of highly intelligent and civilized people. It seems likely that most of their accomplishments were the work of these slaves and other second-class citizens, who lived in dhimmitude within the Muslim empire.

In other words, they lived off the capital of the past and of people whom they conquered. But they accomplished very little on their own.

Even in areas of art and architecture, their main accomplishments--such as Persian and Indian Mogul art--are not really Islamic, but are borrowings from more civilized people. And when Islam in its purity came to the fore, these innovative movements in art disappeared, because they were not in the spirit of the Koran.

[TransOxus]

Muslims did not really create anything innovative as claimed. These innovations came from non-Islamic civilizations they had conquered particularly during the "honeymoon period" after the conquest. Later, pure Islam took over and they regressed. Under Christianity, many of the backward and uncivilized tribes in Europe which were worse than third-world status in the first millenum began to become civilized and the Eastern Civilizations were their El Dorado. At this time, Muslims had conquered the nations which were the conduit between the East and the West and Europeans naturally and mistakenly thought the muslims were the originators of innovation and civilization when in fact it was Indian, Chinese, Persian, Egyptian, and Greek Civilizations who were the the true originators.

[eleni121]

In the past, the Arab Muslims make great strides in mathematics, medicine, architecture, and astronomy. Something went wrong later.

Wrong very wrong. Muslims Arabs conquered and learned from their conquered peoples mainly Byzantine Christians who were in possession of the great clasical works. NO original creative thinking has ever come out of the islamic environment.

[USMMA_83]

They stole all those ideas from the Indian and Chinese civilazations...none of their "ideas" were theirs....

[Straight Vermonter]

In the past, the Arab Muslims make great strides in mathematics, medicine, architecture, and astronomy. Something went wrong later.

There was an excellent article posted here a few months ago detailing how the advances in math etc were accomplished by people in areas that we would taoday call Arab but before they had been conquered by the Islamists. I urge you to check it out.

[lobo59]

In reality those supposed advances only happened as long as islime was making new conquests. The conquest of new minds, new education, new thought made the supposed intellectual qualities of islime seem to exist in reality. When the intellectual slavery and domination of thought was completed the medevial and intellectual qualities of the faith of the false prophet were proven to be non-existent.

Only because most people did not have the courage to stand up and tell the truth about islime was such a silly myth sa its intellectual accomplishment able to thrive and be mouthed as fact and not as simple propaganda.

[Anticommie]

In the past, the Arab Muslims make great strides in mathematics, medicine, architecture, and astronomy. Something went wrong later.

This is a common misconception, Arabs never invented anything, theirs brains are brainwashed by Islam, and they have neither time nor opportunity or permission to think , all those new ideas in mathematics medicine etc were advanced by Indians, Arabs just adopted and stole those ideas from.