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Kindergartener's stripper-mom in church-school flap
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Thursday, May 16, 2002

Posted on 05/16/2002 2:29:30 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

A private Christian school and a kindergartener's mother who stripteases for a living are quickly becoming the focus of the latest debate on religious freedom.

Officials of Capital Christian School in Sacramento, Calif., discovered that what they thought had been a private meeting with a mother of a kindergartner who violated her commitment to school policy had become a news story on the local CBS affiliate KOVR.

The story first came to the attention of WorldNetDaily when WND columnist Rebecca Hagelin was invited Wednesday morning to discuss the issue on CNN's popular afternoon talk show "Talk Back Live." The only information circulating at the time was a brief description of a broadcast report filed by KOVR-TV which broke the story late Tuesday evening.

The summary blurb summed up the story this way: "A mother says her daughter is getting expelled from kindergarten because mom is a part-time stripper. This is about a five-year-old girl who attends Capital Christian School in Sacramento. But her mother says when the school found out she was an exotic dancer they told her she had one week to get her daughter out of their school."

Since the school's position was entirely absent from the report, Hagelin contacted the pastor of Capital Christian Church, the sponsoring church of the school. Senior Pastor Rick Cole was clearly disturbed by the events and reluctant to discuss details. Cole did, however, agree to provide certain facts about the case that had not been disclosed by the mother when she contacted the local television station about the situation.

Although Cole did not reveal the identity of the mother or child, WND subsequently learned their identities from KOVR-TV reporter George Franco, but has opted not to disclose the names to protect the child's privacy.

Hagelin reported the other side of the story during her appearance on CNN yesterday.

"By air time Wednesday afternoon, I had secured two interviews with pastor Cole from my car phone," she said. "His greatest concern and reluctance to speak came from his desire to protect the mother and her daughter." Given that only part of the story had become national news, she added, Cole thought it important provide the rest of the story.

Cole explained that recently school officials had become aware that the mother in question works as a part-time strip-teaser dancer at a local club. Since her occupation is in violation of an agreement with and commitment to the school philosophy that parents must sign before the children are admitted to school, school officials, including Cole met the mother.

Not wanting to divulge the personal and confidential details of the conversation with the mother, Cole only briefly outlined the details of the offer officials had made the mother -- which had been left out of previous news stories.

"The school offered to waive the last month's tuition for the student so the young girl could remain in school to the end of the year if the mother would quit her job as a strip-tease dancer. They also offered to support the mother and walk 'hand in hand' with her as she worked through the spiritual issues involved and sought to better her life," said Hagelin. "The pastor believed that the meeting had been well-received by the mother, but the next thing he knew he was getting calls from the local media. I found Pastor Cole to be clearly upset that his efforts to help a woman in a very bad situation were not successful."

As a requirement for admission, parents of prospective students must sign a "commitment" to support the philosophy of the school. That philosophy, in part, reads: "Emphasis is placed on learning about God and the truths of God's Word in relationship to man and his world; recognizing that the way to God comes through personal faith in Jesus Christ; and Christian maturity comes by application of the truths of the Bible in all areas of life." In signing the document, parents agree to maintain a "partnership" with the school "regarding the standards and criteria of a Christian learning structure that involves the entire family."

"Although school officials see the mother's job as a stripper as a clear violation of her signed commitment, automatic termination of the relationship was not an option for them," said Hagelin. "The pastor and school attempted to help the mother better her life, and offered her both financial, spiritual and emotional support."

In Hagelin's interview with the pastor, he described how the role of the school differed somewhat from that of the church. While the church has open arms to all who wish to attend, he discussed how essential parental commitment is to the success of a school of 1,200 students that seeks to provide both high academic and spiritual standards for each and every student, noted Hagelin.

Reporter George Franco of KOVR told Hagelin that the mother has retained legal counsel and is considering filing a motion for an immediate injunction to have the child remain in school while the mother continues to work as a stripper.


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To: cake_crumb
Doesn't indicate how long the negotiations went on to try to keep her in school. Could have been a day. Could have been a week. Could have been a month.

Ever see a kid denied the opportunity to graduate or even march with his class because he messed up? The child here did not cause the grievance but then the coursework would hardly be missed in kindergarten.

681 posted on 05/16/2002 4:09:11 PM PDT by weegee
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To: cake_crumb
I don't see how grabbing a photo to show administrators violates the copyright. Everything you view on the internet downloaded to your harddrive before you even looked at it. That download is a "copy".

What you do with it determines copyright violation. There are many adult sites that would gladly grab all available nekid lady photos to offer for free or sell as content. Some less scrupulous porn venders may even use her photo at the top level to promote their pay site (offering no further glimpses of this woman). Some may even graft the head and body onto other photos.

Educators are permitted to copy copyrighted articles/books/etc. for educational purposes. Maybe someone was planning to unveil this at Show & Tell or to explain why someone did not get to go to Take Your Daughter To Work Day.

683 posted on 05/16/2002 4:16:17 PM PDT by weegee
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To: one_particular_harbour
You can't have it both ways, counselor. If the little girl can't understand that her momma's a stripper, she sure ain't gonna fathom that because she changes schools, that her momma's a slut. BTW, that's YOUR word. I don't see that anywhere else.

And you still haven't read the article and understood what happened there. You apparently made up your mind that the pastor was the kind of Christian you're on the warpath against (contrary to your protestations, that would be ALL Christians) and don't confuse you with the facts.

Now lets review your position:

1. You say you're a Christian
2. Then you say: "I don't dislike Christianity. What I dislike is people who construe it a s a vicious, nasty pseudoethical code that allows them to do and say snotty and mean things about people who do them no harm."
3. But in the past, you've posted some awfully nasty things about "Christians" a number of times.

Conclusion? You must be one of those Christians you dislike so much.

684 posted on 05/16/2002 4:18:15 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: cake_crumb
Don't forget to scrub your drive real well when lurking through DUh posts. Wouldn't want any of their cookies...

Standard procedure is not to link to DUh in posts or even to bring up their day's discussions.

I think that it is permissible to discuss them as an entity and request that some disrupters return "home".

685 posted on 05/16/2002 4:21:52 PM PDT by weegee
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To: flyervet; cake_crumb
If you've personally never been there, how can you say for certain what the content is and what the opinions of those people would be?

I can't say for certain, but I trust most people here at FR to tell it like it is, and I DID USED TO BE A DEMOCRAT (shivers running up and down my spine as I say it), so I know a little bit about how they think or (fail to think). I just mentioned the first liberal website I could think of because the stripper mother sounds like a real victimologist to me, something that liberal Democrats know a lot about.

687 posted on 05/16/2002 4:40:08 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: one_particular_harbour
I've scanned the thread, and I find you're still here, fighting!

Good for you, oph, you've shown more moral courage than the cabal of whited sepulchres scuttling around looking for stones to throw at the mother who wanted a 'Christian' education for her child.

I don't know about the child, but the mother certainly received an education. ;^)

688 posted on 05/16/2002 4:42:54 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: one_particular_harbour
I usually agree with you when you point out the hypocrisy of some outspoken fundamentalists, but in this case, the school has a responsibility to its students and their parents to teach the kids that things like premarital sex and "showing what you've got" to anyone of the opposite sex is wrong. How can they do that once it's public knowledge that one of the parents is a non-apologetic stripper?
689 posted on 05/16/2002 4:44:36 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: one_particular_harbour
So the reason you don't think you're one of those Christians you dislike is because the people you talk nasty about and are judgmental toward are . . . those Christians you dislike.

You're saying it's OK for you, but not for others. Cute.

692 posted on 05/16/2002 5:03:54 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: one_particular_harbour
I heard on the radio that a parent saw her on the internet and gave her photo to the school. If the parent acted in good faith to discover if a rumor were true or not, I don't have a problem with that. But that's probably not the case in which case there should have been more parents called in to the school's office.
695 posted on 05/16/2002 5:19:01 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: guywiththeanswer
Welcome to FreeRepublic.

You may want to visit HTML Bootcamp. It will teach you how to format your text into paragraphs, etc.

697 posted on 05/16/2002 5:36:52 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Lord_Baltar;hobbes1;one_particular_harbour
QUIT MAKING SENSE! This is FR, not some sort of discussion forum!!!!

Good job supporting your position.
698 posted on 05/16/2002 5:47:42 PM PDT by Saturnalia
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To: cake_crumb
I didn't find a pic of Christina Silvas

For those who simply must see them, her stage name seems to be Samantha
Warning, Don't follow link if offended by nudity!

699 posted on 05/16/2002 6:04:39 PM PDT by Darkshadow
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