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Kindergartener's stripper-mom in church-school flap
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Thursday, May 16, 2002

Posted on 05/16/2002 2:29:30 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: Guns4va
She signed an agreement to live in accordance with Christian principles, then broke it. Stripping is not, no how, no way, in accordance with Christian principles.

I feel very sorry for the little girl, because that woman's got lots more problems than her cashflow. For starters, why in the world would she take this to the press? Is she perhaps looking to get letters of sympathy from the public, with a few dollars tucked inside?

421 posted on 05/16/2002 10:47:21 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Guns4va
I'm sure the little girl will be *proud* of her mom when she grows up... ok .. now I REALLY am out of here....
422 posted on 05/16/2002 10:47:52 AM PDT by TxBec
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To: JohnHuang2
I'm not a big fan of Capitol Christian. And this isn't the first time Pastor Cole has been attacked. A few years back there was a scandal because he cut out a valevictorian (sp?) speach from a black honor student because his close shaved haircut violated school code. I think Capitol Christian deserved that one. I mean, come on, black hair IS very different. A skinhead shave on a black man looks more respectable than a skinhead shave on any other ethnicity.

But this is another matter altogether. I think what CC did this time was more in the best interest of the child. They sought to protect the privacy of the young girl and they sought to improve her home life by counselling the mother. If I were head of a church I would also be concerned about the questionable homelife of a student. This stripper mother was selfish and showed no reguard for her daughter by bringing this case to the media. She knew that her profession was in conflict with CC's standards and ethics. If she doesn't like those standards she can put her kid in the Waldorf school. There are many more options that would have been better for her child than going to the media and making her 5 y.o. the center of a scandal! This child must be suffering enough humiliation knowing that her mother takes off her clothes and sexually teases men for a living. It has to be added stress and humiliation to know that EVERYONE knows it.

423 posted on 05/16/2002 10:48:53 AM PDT by Sally II
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To: jim35
It's that pesky little fact concerning a woman who is paid to titillate strange men in public by displaying her nude body, and the fact that this doesn't disturb you is somewhat disquieting. You find no difference between this and a model posing nude for a painting, and I must admit that I'm not entirely sure how I stand on that issue, but I do see a difference.

Frankly, No, I find the Female Body absolutely Beautiful (well, in most cases, at any rate) and No, the sight of a Naked Woman doesn't disturb me.

Does it disturb you?

As for the difference you discuss, most Painter's/Photographer's Models aren't married to the Artists they pose for. So that would by default make them strange men they are posing for.

So, I guess the difference you're beating around the bush about is Male Arousal. If it's Nakedness that doesn't get your Knickers in a Knot, then it's Art, and OK, and you have no problem with the young Lady getting paid for services rendered. However, if somehow she causes the viewer to become Aroused, then she is the cause of the downfall of Society, and must be Labeled as such.

Can you say TALIBAN, I know you can...

424 posted on 05/16/2002 10:49:20 AM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: SCalGal
The part of stripping that really appeals is that it's only for a few hours at night- you have all the rest of your time to spend with your child, rather than having to put the child in daycare from 6am to 6pm.

So daycare from 6pm to 6am is better?

Who is with this 5-year old little girl at night while mommy is out helping perverts get their jollies? Who is tucking the little girl in at night? Who is saying her prayers with her at night (she was trying to raise her daughter in a Christian environment)?

-Kevin

425 posted on 05/16/2002 10:49:28 AM PDT by ksen
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To: SCalGal
but as i have repeatedly said, would it not be better for the mother, who cares about morals, to quit the job that shames/embarasses the child, and send her somewhere that she can afford working at a more legit job that the kid can be proud of. It is hard enough on kids, their peers are downright MEAN, to bring that down on them is positively cruel.
426 posted on 05/16/2002 10:49:30 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: stands2reason
Do you know that's how they found out, or are you just making things up?

No, my Excitable Friend, I'm asking a Question...

428 posted on 05/16/2002 10:50:56 AM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: Guns4va
Absolutely, Stone them All. The Cousins, Aunts, Uncles, Grandparents. Heck throw in the Neighbors too, we don't know how far their Demonic Infection has spread.

Now, Isn't that Special...

429 posted on 05/16/2002 10:53:23 AM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: ZinGirl
Welcome to FR!!! By the way, I am curious if any students knew at the time about the woman's job. I can imagine it wouldn't have been long before rumors started swirling about the school...with the little girl at their focus point...the important thing to the school officials was that the woman stop stripping, so they had to give her a choice to make. They were hoping that she'd make the right decision. She didn't.
430 posted on 05/16/2002 10:56:54 AM PDT by stands2reason
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To: Guns4va
Perhaps this school is able to understand that they will only be successful if parents make a commitment to reinforce the same standards at home as those required at school.

I find it hard to grasp why you feel you can dictate the policies and procedures of private enterprises. I once worked for a privately-held company that required signing and abiding by a Judeo-Christian ethics agreement, as well as drug-testing. Employment was "at will" and could be terminated for, among other things, adultery or drug use. It wasn't restricted to on premise conduct. Evidently this school employs a similar policy for parents and students.

431 posted on 05/16/2002 10:57:49 AM PDT by garv
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To: Sally II
And this isn't the first time Pastor Cole has been attacked. A few years back there was a scandal because he cut out a valevictorian (sp?) speach from a black honor student because his close shaved haircut violated school code.

So what we have then is a reflexive, thoughtless adherence to a policy, and a pastor that makes no allowance for a litttle common sense..(like letting the CHILD finish the three weeks..)

434 posted on 05/16/2002 11:01:43 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: garv
It's nice to see that Authoritarian Spirit is still flourishing in this so-called land of the Free...

Move along...

435 posted on 05/16/2002 11:01:50 AM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: Lord_Baltar
Simply being a Nude Dancer does not by Default make the Lady a Slut, a Whore, or a Porn "Actress".

You’re right, but it will, by default, make her a disobedient Christian.

Let's face it, in Today's economy, even if you have a good job skill set, it can be difficult to support a Family.

I am supporting a family of five on a single income. If times got tough I wouldn’t ask my wife to go strut her stuff in front of a bunch of drooling men in order to make ends meet. I would do what it took to support my family without having to resort to that type of behavior.

Try being a Single Mother,[anatomically impossible ;^)] with a limited job skill set, but a great Body. Would she really be better off doing a 40 hour week slinging Burgers, for minimum wage, OR doing a 20 hour week making a considerable amount more money for simply Dancing Naked?

Yes she would be spiritually better off not letting letches exploit her.

Quite Frankly, with the amount of Strip Clubs in this Country, and the vast number of women who perform in them, my guess is you've probably run across more than one who put herself through College doing it. And considering your viewpoints, can you say it's surprising that they wouldn't have mentioned it to you?

Could it be that they haven’t mentioned it because they are ashamed to have stooped to doing such a thing?

And what's the crime in doing it? So far, the only thing I can see that this Lady did wrong was letting these Fundi Web Surfers push her around. They aren't accusing her of Hosing down the customers, just taking off her clothes. So What?

You’re right, there was technically no crime committed. However, not everything that is legal is necessarily right.

Have you ever been in a Strip Club? Ever put a dollar up on the Bar? (Don't Lie now, that's a Sin too, remember)

Oh, I won’t lie to you. I haven’t been a Christian my entire life. I have been to those places in the past. That doesn’t invalidate any of my arguments though.

-Kevin

436 posted on 05/16/2002 11:02:44 AM PDT by ksen
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To: one_particular_harbour
AMEN!

You Know One, I think I'm gonna just start Amening your Posts by number, it'll save me time.

437 posted on 05/16/2002 11:04:02 AM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: Guns4va
When did I mention discrimination based on religion?
438 posted on 05/16/2002 11:04:21 AM PDT by garv
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To: Lord_Baltar
So forcing a private school to adapt to your belief system is less authoritarian than you accepting theirs. Now I get it.
439 posted on 05/16/2002 11:07:04 AM PDT by garv
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