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View for sale: $30,000 New owner of a lake fences it off when homeowners wouldn't pay.
St. Petersburg Times ^ | May 14, 2002 | ROBERT FARLEY

Posted on 05/14/2002 5:05:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: RetiredNavy
Welcome to wierd world. A place where everyone who disagrees with the thugs is a libertarian, and where libertarians are bad. So anyone who disagrees with them = bad. And to the world where every question no matter how far afield is an opportunity to bash freedom lovers.
782 posted on 05/14/2002 1:09:36 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: one_particular_harbour
These folks aren't freeloaders, though. They bought their properties surrounding this lake with the verbal, and very likely the written understanding of how the lake fit into the development.

And this shell game speculator bought the lake for $1000 and tries to rip off the honest folks. He is a lazy parasite.

783 posted on 05/14/2002 1:10:09 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: medved
Sounds like somebody needs to introduce the homeowners in the situation to Paladin Press and George Hayduke...
Any student of Hayduke knows that a house is a hell of a lot more vulnerable than a fence.

Again, if anyone vandalizes the fence, he has both the right and the demonstrated need to protect his property. Here come the floodlights and the security cameras.

-Eric

786 posted on 05/14/2002 1:12:06 PM PDT by E Rocc
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To: justshutupandtakeit
This guy is a tax-sale scavenger just as the others are.

Blame the gov't first for that: they took someone's property for non-payment of "protection money" (aka "taxes"). This guy just did what none of the other homeowners bothered to do: buy the property, either from the prior owner or from the gov't. He didn't steal the property, the gov't did.

He may find that he doesn't own the lake either since it is, by law, part of the "waters of the United States" and therefore subject to the wetlands regulations.

He may not own the water space, but he does own the 10-20 foot strip around it.

787 posted on 05/14/2002 1:12:54 PM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: A. Pole
Say what you will about the opportunist, but most are missing the first "wrong" in the chain of events--- the developer's failure to pay property taxes.

The Speculator owes no "legal" duty to the homeowners, unless he inherited them with the property. The real "bad guy" would be the developer if the homeowners were mislead into believing the lake was a "common area" for their benefit.

Another point that has not been mentioned is the unintended consequences of an eminent domain condemnation. I am not sure the homeowners would like the lake to be taken as "public property" and therefore open to all of the "public."

791 posted on 05/14/2002 1:16:54 PM PDT by Boatlawyer
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To: one_particular_harbour
They bought their properties surrounding this lake with the verbal, and very likely the written understanding of how the lake fit into the development.

And how do we know this? If true, it's the lawyers' fault. The homeowners can sue their lawyers for leaving a loophole in the deed!

792 posted on 05/14/2002 1:17:16 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: You are here
I said that I had the right to build a deck. And I do! And if you don't like it... TS. Your perceived right to privacy outdoors, does NOT take precedence over eveyone else's rights. Sorry to burst your bubble.
793 posted on 05/14/2002 1:17:46 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: E Rocc
muriatic
794 posted on 05/14/2002 1:19:16 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Quilla
Those who live in other development with half a million dollar homes can 'look but not touch'. Although I am sure this is perfectly legal, it seems as tacky as this pink fence.

Why? Considering how much people litter and teenagers party....

IMHO ownership connotes responsibility
796 posted on 05/14/2002 1:19:34 PM PDT by BabsC
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Sounds like The House of Sand and Fog by Andre Dubus III. A fantastic novel for anyone looking for something to read

Great book but so-o-o depressing. Not one of the characters had any redeeming attributes. I do recommend it, though.

797 posted on 05/14/2002 1:20:55 PM PDT by nycgal
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To: one_particular_harbour
The notice issue is well-taken. Here in Broward County we have had abuses of the notice provisions of variance requests, to the point that large notices of hearing must be posted on the Property affected and personal notice given to surrounding residents, as well as general publication.
798 posted on 05/14/2002 1:21:31 PM PDT by Boatlawyer
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To: one_particular_harbour
These folks aren't freeloaders, though. They bought their properties surrounding this lake with the verbal, and very likely the written understanding of how the lake fit into the development. There is an easement of some sort that coame with it - because it was implicitly part of the marketing of their properties, and yes, tied into the value.

Pursuant to their part of the bargain, they kept it up - which makes them "not freeloaders".

They could have formed an organization to buy the lake at any time. Instead, they kept it in the presumed-to-be benevolent hands of the developer. I have no doubt that the tax delinquencies were listed and the auction was as well. That's the notification required by law. Government isn't required to hold people's hands, nor do we want it to be.

When I was growing up, there was an undeveloped street behind us. My one friend's family had a baseball field extending from their backyard to the lot behind them. My one next door neighbor on one side extended his backyard by cutting the grass beyond the property line. On the other side, the neighbor had a vegetable garden in the lot behind him. We had a dense wooded patch that me and my friends made use of. :snicker:

The difference between us and these people: we knew that street was eventually going to be developed. We didn't have the nerve to use the property for free for all those years, and then try to claim some sort of "squatter's rights" when the owner decided to make use of it.

That's what these people (and their allies on this thread) are advocating: "squatters rights". There's no such thing in a society that respects private property.

-Eric

799 posted on 05/14/2002 1:21:49 PM PDT by E Rocc
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