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View for sale: $30,000 New owner of a lake fences it off when homeowners wouldn't pay.
St. Petersburg Times ^
| May 14, 2002
| ROBERT FARLEY
Posted on 05/14/2002 5:05:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I wonder how he got access to his lake property?
What if the lake is "land locked" and he has to get permission from the surrounding landowners to get to the lake?
If the landowners around the lake join forces, it might cost him a pretty penny to rebuild fences or do anything with his lake.
Both parties can play that game.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Navaroli said he warned the county property appraiser's office more than a year ago about the danger of taxing undevelopable lands, such as retention ponds, or selling those lands at tax sale. How did we know there would be some government weirdness?
This is a weird little story. No matter how much you like the capitalist ethic, Mr. Connolly sounds like a jerk. No matter how much you like government regulation, this case of it was clearly nuts.
To: AppyPappy
Incidentally, this guy bought the lakeside property at a delinquent sale for $1000. The homeowners could have each coughed up $75 and done the same, if they had been a bit more vigilant. They missed their opportunity.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
It just makes me think how lucky I am to have moved away from all that to move out here in the sticks where I don't have to put up with crap like that.
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posted on
05/14/2002 6:08:46 AM PDT
by
Piquaboy
To: freedomcrusader
If I were a homeowner I'd be sure to contact the local asessors office to make sure the new owner was being asessed properly for each $30,000 section.
I'm guessing his asking price would drop quickly.
To: NittanyLion
He can do what he wants with his own property as long as it doesn't hurt his neighbors. The fence is clearly hurting his neighbors.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
A couple of things:
Yes, it's his property, and he should be able to do as he pleases. However, two thoughts come to mind:
1) The pink fence. Sure, he should be able to paint the fence whatever color he wants for the side that faces his direction. But painting the side that faces his neighbors should have to be a neutral color -- you're not taking anything from him (it is a solid fence, so he'll never see the paint on that side, but the neighbors will).
2) The county should have notified the owners around the lake that this property was for sale. It would probably not have gone for $1,000. While the property owners should have gotten a survey before buying the property (I bought a house a few months ago and got a survey done to make sure that fences, garages, etc. were on the right side of the property line), if they had and found that the property between their house and the lake was undeveloped land, and it was not zoned for development, they may have accepted that. I don't dispute that this guy has a right to build a fence, but the county should have more public auctions, and at least notify others in the area. Sure, they published it in some sort of register, but no one reads those or should be expected to.
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posted on
05/14/2002 6:09:27 AM PDT
by
Koblenz
To: GuillermoX
Certainly not. I don't advocate any illegal act. I simply noted the folly of this jackal, er, "entrepreneur" constructing a spite fence out of combustible materials.
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posted on
05/14/2002 6:10:51 AM PDT
by
strela
To: AppyPappy
He still owns the lake so he still carries the liability.
Only if the homeowners persist in being stupid. See post #35 for sage advice about buying the land under the lake... If these folks left him in possession of the lake, and the lake levels drop, they could have to go through the whole darned thing all over again.
To: NittanyLion
That still doesn't deny them the right to enjoy their property. The fence is clearly designed to punish those who do not pay him and hurt the value of their property. Also, he must obey any previous agreements that came with the property.
To: Koblenz
The county should have notified the owners around the lake that this property was for sale.
I'd bet serious money that a notice of the auction was printed in the local rag...
To: Wurlitzer; Tooters
If all this sleeze ball had was the perimiter rights, how did his work crews gain access to build the fence?What if the lake is "land locked" and he has to get permission from the surrounding landowners to get to the lake?
Hmmmmmmmmm
To: freedomcrusader
He still carries the liability on the lake. The fence had no bearing on that issue because he is willing to remove the fence for $30k.
To: Kermit
we don't "own" our property, we rent it from the government One of the points of the Communist manifesto - abolition of private property, and all rents given to the state.
This is the real horsesh-oe of this deal. The state, because of its need for collectivist power, made this situation happen.
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posted on
05/14/2002 6:13:42 AM PDT
by
MrB
To: AppyPappy
That still doesn't deny them the right to enjoy their property.
Nothing he's done has prevented them from enjoying their property, they're just no longer able to enjoy HIS property.
To: AppyPappy
He is offering land for $30K, not the removal of a fence.
To: AppyPappy
That still doesn't deny them the right to enjoy their property. And they can enjoy their property. They can no longer enjoy his property. It's a simple concept.
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To: Wolfie
Are personality traits to be considered when discussing rights? If my neighbor's a d*ck, can I take his car?
Of course not. What I'm saying is that altruism is wasted on anuses like the story's Mr. Connolly. I'm sure this cling-on wouldn't care if it were noble Lockean private property rights or brutish Stalinesque land seizures that gave him the fortune to hose his neighbors. No man is an island, after all.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Some homeowners blame the developer, Lloyd Ferrentino for allowing the taxes to lapse. At the very least, some said, he should have notified the property owners so they could have tried to buy it. Ferrentino could not be reached Monday.Yes that is a shame. Maybe there should be automatic notification in situations like this?
"I look at it this way: There's the spirit of the law and the letter of the law," Cieslinski said. "The county is looking at this as the letter of the law. There's got to be a legal Latin term for "the law says this, but wait a minute, look at the extenuating circumstances.' "
Nope, sorry buddy.
It is appalling that he is painting the fence pink - if these are 300k homes, I'm surprised that there aren't zoning restrictions for that sort of thing.
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posted on
05/14/2002 6:18:04 AM PDT
by
agrace
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