The SCOTUS has interpreted the Constitution into meaninglessness at every opportunity. As a result the federal government now has broad and sweeping police powers. Federal law enforcement can essentially do anything they want with impunity and often do. Wether or not the SCOTUS is Conservative is really irrelevant. What's important is how they rule.
No, I didn't change what I wrote, from post to post. Yes, everyone can see what's what.
You certainly did. In post #251 you stated:
"In 30 plus years, the LP has actually LOST voters and supporters."
I responded with facts to prove your assertion false. Then in post #315 you responded with:
"I said PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE for the last three cycles, and how many votes they got...and you're arguing about the number of votes, for ALL LP candidates, for the 2000 election."
In post #303 you stated:
"If, as many FR Libertraians claim, they don't agree with many LP platform stances, but then say that they are voting for the Libertarian " on proncile ", that IS hypocritic ; the candidate doesn't share their oh so vaunted principles at all."
In post #311 I asked two questions. First, the fact that many Libertarians criticize the LP platform and vote LP candidates makes them hypocritical how? Second, I asked you how were you able to determine that the candidates don't share their principles at all to which you replied:
"it is safe to say ( and more factual ! ) , to say that Libertarians, who supposedly vote their " principles " , in voting for a candidate / party patform, that they don't agree with , on many, many issues , are hypocrites and unprincipled."
You didn't answer my questions but instead attempted to obfuscate the matter by rephrasing something you said earlier and pretending the initial statement was never made.
Bellflower, Ca. is a MAJOR city ? Not if one considers N.Y., Chicago, L.A., Atlanta, and Boston to be MAJOR cities. Heck, Buffalo, Pittburgh, and New Orleans are more " major " , than Bellflower is. I've never even heard of Bellflower and I think that it is fairly safe to say, that the vast majority of people, in this country, have NEVER heard of it either.
You challenged me to name at least one Libertarian mayor of a major city. I did. Sorry you didn't like my answer. Too bad. He repealed a utility tax while in office for all property owners in the city and I'm sure they all appreciated it.
Is making a government smaller, the ONLY prerequisite...
No. Preventing it from expanding further is another.
All the accomplishments you listed by Rudy Guliani are fantastic. I'm glad he did those things. However, New York still enjoys some of the strictest gun control in the country, one of the highest tax burdens, and a massive state budget. Republican governor Pataki signed additional gun control into law in 2000.
...takes a pro stance on pornography, prostitution, and anything else I don't agree with...
The party does not take a "pro" stance on these issues and to the best of my knowledge I've never met a Libertarian who has either. It's one thing to oppose criminalization of something and another to be in favor of it. I don't think that failing to brush one's teeth should be a crime under the law. That doesn't mean I favor not brushing one's teeth.
Libertarianism isn't workable ; it's UTOPIAN...
Ah, but your political worldview ISN'T utopian. I see. I'm curious about something. If what Republicans enact in Congress and elsewhere is workable how come it's still not working? How come every year they need new laws, new programs, and new spending?
...and not what this country was founded in...
I'm sure that the government we have now was exactly the kind of government the founders intended. In either case it's certainly the kind of government we deserve.
Bellflower, Ca. is NOT a " major " city, dear. It is reeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllly stretching the meaning of the word " major ", to the nth degree. How is Bellflower a MAJOR city ? Is it, perchance as large as N.Y.C., or Boston, or L.A., or Chicago; or even Albany or Houston or Seattle ? As I said, I'VE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF IT BEFORE !
I;m talking about what Rudy, as a MAYOR , did ( yep, he did that, and MORE good stuff ! ) , and you throw in Pataki, who's the governor , and you talk about changing topics ? Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh !
Yes, by its very nature, Libertarianism, IS Utopian. Unlike some Utopian enclaves ( that have been tried out ), it doesn't even strive for a community of like minded souls ; rather it would FORCE ( how VERY unLibertarian, of Libertarians ! ) it down everyone's throat, willy-nilly and expect it to actually work ... totally disregarding the probable consequences . Well, that's NOt totally correct; FR Libertarians talk about " Social Darwinism "; which wouldn't work out the way they all seem to expect it would. LOL
No shades of grey ... either one is for something, or not ; neutrality about a topic, becomes PRO . The LP platform is " neutral " on ALL abortion. Even Partial birth abortion ( infantacide ! ) isn't to be condemned. Tolerance / decriminalization of prostitution ... even child prostitution, is fine and dandy. I have seen, with these two eyes, and so have others, Libertarians, type, on a thread on FR that there isn't anything " wrong " with kiddie porn; that it wasn't porn at all, but " art ". There's far mire that I could cite; but it's not worth the bother. You won't agree to what I write, and WILL manage to turn and twist it beyond recognition.
No, this isn't the same country is was, when it first began. It isn't even the same nation, that it was 50 years ago. The governent has changed, strayed from some of the early concepts, and has indeed overgrown. Though I do NOT think that the government should be this large, intrusive, or over regulated, unlike the Libertarian purists , I know that it is impossible to go back to the way it was in 1800, and don't expect it to do so any time soon. Nor do I agree with a great number of the LP's positions. In that, I am NOT alone, or in a tiny minority. The infinitessimally small minority are the Libertarians !
No, Republicans aren't Utopians. They aren't perfect; not anywhere near ; however, at least they are able to get some of the things done, that I want to get done. The ONLY thing, that fringe parties do, especially on a Federal level, is to be the spoiler. We are a Representative Republic, do NOT have coalition governments ( thank GOD and the Ffs ! ) ; ergo, Libertarians will NEVER , not EVER be in a position to get their more noxious and delitorious positions passed.
Do go on, dear, but as you have managed to bore the socks off me, I shan't. We've done this round, for years here and it's stale ; statist, if you will. The chains, that you drag around , weigh all honest debate down. See , anyone can use the " code words ", if they care to. LOL