Posted on 05/13/2002 1:41:59 PM PDT by KantianBurke
Hate to lose your vote - we need it desperately. I really feel that Bush is looking at this situation with Mexico with a different vision. Remember Bush comes up with innovative solutions. I feel that his vision sees solving the problem by setting up a guest worker program which would have control over the "guest workers" in our country. Our country needs the workers that will work cheap - they are coming in anyway and the work is being done. Just find a way to take away the illegal crossing and have control over who comes in.
IMHO he feels the solution is in raising the economy in Mexico to prevent the need for coming over. I feel Bush wants to strengthen the ties with Mexico and Canada to provide a more secure North America with partners on each side instead of illegals wandering in and out.
Bush is going to do nothing to hurt the welfare of his own country - I feel he is working on bigger solutions.
I am sure we do .. what does that have to do with my response???
Just why does Bush have to play policeman as well as run this country, fight terrorist, fight democrats, try to get tax cuts and all the other efforts we want in government? Bush had a choice - go after Clinton with revenge after years of investigations, impeachment efforts, and everything the republicans had done to take Clinton to task - or set about putting in his policies as quickly as possible. He did not run on the platform - to investigate chinagate, etc. He ran on things he wanted to get done and he set about doing them getting far more through than we ever thought possible.
Looks like you just wanted him for revenge. Another thing - what would have happened if he attacked Clinton with more investigations? It would have immediately put Clinton in the limelight and rallied his forces to take over the Bush term with Clintonantics.
Bush handled it perfectly - he showed class, dignity and leadership. We finally had a leader running the government. Clinton was now out of power - I would not have wanted Clinton controlling the agenda from the sidelines.
You two chatter about Bush's intent to have the INS eveluate applications submitted by illegal aliens, under the terms of 245i, on a case by case basis. If the INS receives 20 million applications, how many years will it take for them to make all of those case by case decisions?
In the meantime we have all those millions more illegal aliens leaching off our social services for all those years?
With $70 billion dollars plus, in social services that we spend on illegal aliens, we could afford to pay a high enough price for Calfornia Fruits and Vegetables that the farmers could pay Americans to do those jobs.
I vote for the "They Will Deport Themselves Plan". Send the illegals home. We can't afford them.
Does the rule of law mean anything anymore? Does it matter that Clinton besmirched and disgraced the office of President? Apparently not to you and not to Bush. The RIGHT thing to do would be to expose that criminal and his cronies for the gangsters and traitors that they are. Not to do so is a travesty of justice.
And what did Bush run on? Smaller govt right? Then what is this farm bill? What is this education bill? Is this what he ran on?
Fight democrats? I don't see much fighting going on. What is Bush doing about the holdup of the his judicial nominees? NOTHING.
Bush handled it perfectly - he showed class, dignity and leadership. We finally had a leader running the government. Clinton was now out of power - I would not have wanted Clinton controlling the agenda from the sidelines.
What is it exactly that makes Bush a good leader? So far, I haven't seen him do anything to advance the cause of conservatives other than a tax cut, and give lip service to abortion issue.
Let me tell you something, he also has done very little to protect Americans from terorists - the U.S. govt. doesn't know the meaning of homeland defense. Our borders are sieves and Bush wants to grant amnesty to lawbreakers - pandering to hispanics. I am sick and tired of wishy washy republicans giving lip service to conservatives and then abandoning conservative principles. I am through with the Republican Party. YOu see, I am a REAL CONSERVATIVE with principles. I don't back down in the face of pressure - I will DIE BEFORE I SURRENDER MY PRINCIPLES.
I also subscribe to this. If another large scale attack happens, it's going to get ugly.
I couldn't say I absolutely agree 100% with everything he
says, or does, but I don't know all the facts that he has access to.
Then he might not get everything he wants done, done.
There is our legislative body, Congress. That's where Mr. Tancredo comes
in. Now If he disagrees with Mr. Bush, he can say so, and vote
against it. He's not helpless! One can respect Mr. Tancredo
very much and not agree with him. Contrary to what
the bush-bashers on here, Bush doesn't have a magic wand like
a wizard, and he waves it whenever someone squalls that they
want something done 'right now'. Good grief, settle
down people! Mr Bush doesn't have unending power! So
cheer-up! He might not get his way on this either.
Although all this junk is falling on G. Bush now, he does have to
deal with it the best way he can. I don't remember him
asking for Sept. 11, do you? We have to remember, a lot of these
shadowy people who had some involvement with Sept. 11,
got in before G. Bush got into office. Was he supposed to
anticipate that the would get in and stay past their visas?
Whose job was that, huh? Did he do his job? No.
So why, may I ask, is it all being blamed on G. Bush?
Why should G. Bush turn himself in? Unless he's committed some
crime, no he shouldn't. Unless you can do better, quit judging! Or, vote for
else, and hush-up!
I don't agree with that. The blood would be on the terrorists hands, not our government, unless they knowingly knew that people would die in a specific situation.
If you get into an accident, wife and kids killed, because you didn't want to get your hands dirty and fix the brakes you are responsible and you would know it. Even if it wasn't your fault...some guy ran a red light and you could have stopped if only you had fixed the brakes. You would spend the rest of your days blaming yourself inwardly while outwardly attempting to blame the other party. Blood on your hands.period.
EBUCK
Because illegals are working menial jobs they should get to skirt the law? Does that apply to all of us or just illegals?
I do also have to say this; for the most part, I would say that Mexicans are very decent, honest, hard working people. They are people who love their families. I have no hard feelings when it comes to them. They come here, do work that no other Americans will do, and then send money back to their families back in Mexico, or return back to their families.
When I was a kid I worked summers on farms picking produce (garlic and straw berries ect). There were quite a few mexican families out there as well doing the work. They were all legal, the farmers were very strict about that. They worked hard, a lot harder than us kids did, and got paid well. Nowadays there are hundreds of illegals out in the fields picking away for very little pay and no local kids are hired anymore. The price of our fruits hasn't changed (actually StrawBerries were up 10% last year after adjusting for inflation) and the quality has gone down dramatically.
EBUCK
I know it! How many time do you need to put that thing up before they actually read it?????
EBUCK
I think it is just a matter of time before something happens. We have Memorial Day and July the 4th coming up. What a time for these loons to make a statement.
I guess I don't understand what you are geting at.
Guns are not pre-requisites to crime. Right?
Illegally coming into our country is, in fact, a pre-requisite to illegal immigration. Right?
Stricter gun-control will not reduce crime because crime is not dependant upon guns. Stricter border control will reduce illegal immigration because crossing the border is absolutely neccesary to illegal immigration.
AGain, I don't see your point. It's obvious to me that gun control has no effect on crime. I might even say gun control promotes crime
EBUCK
That's what has me so incensed. He's using these tactics on his own, conservative constituency.
That's leadership?
(I am slow)
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