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EMERSON & THE SECOND AMENDMENT
Fiedor Report On the News #272 ^ | 5-12-02 | Doug Fiedor

Posted on 05/11/2002 10:23:17 AM PDT by forest

Quite a number of us have been following the U.S. v. Emerson case pertaining to the Second Amendment. Therein, the federal trial court judge wrote one of the finest decisions ever to come out of a federal criminal court -- which tracked perfectly with the original intent of all of the Founding Fathers when they approved the Constitution and later the Bill of Rights.

However, the decision was appealed.

Alas, although the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with the lower court that the Second Amendment protects an individual right of the people to keep and bear arms, they reversed that part of the lower court's decision which benefited Emerson.(1) So, Emerson appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court. The Supreme Court is now considering if it will hear the case.

Lawyers speak to the Court through their briefs and last May 6 was the deadline for filing them. In a nutshell, attorneys for Emerson are petitioning the Court to hear the case. Attorneys representing the federal government do not want the Court to hear it.

Last year, in a letter to National Rifle Association, Attorney General John Ashcroft said that the Second Amendment confers the right to "keep and bear arms" to private citizens, and not just to the "well-regulated militia" mentioned in the Amendment's preamble. "While some have argued that the Second Amendment guarantees only a 'collective' right of the states to maintain militias, I believe the amendment's plain meaning and original intent prove otherwise," Ashcroft wrote.

It would be kind of hard to support our Constitution and the intent of the Founding Fathers without agreeing with that. So, Ashcroft's letter got a lot of hopes up around the country. But "saying" it and actually enforcing it are two different things. So, we waited. Meanwhile, people were still being arrested around the country for unconstitutional and archaic gun laws.

Finally, last week, the Attorney General, via two U.S. Supreme Court briefs filed by Solicitor General Theodore B. Olson, tied actions to his words. Sort of, anyway.

As Linda Greenhouse reported in The New York Times May 7: "The Justice Department, reversing decades of official government policy on the meaning of the Second Amendment, told the Supreme Court for the first time late Monday that the Constitution 'broadly protects the rights of individuals' to own firearms.

"The position, expressed in a footnote in each of two briefs filed by Solicitor General Theodore B. Olson, incorporated the view that Attorney General John Ashcroft expressed a year ago in a letter to the National Rifle Association. Mr. Ashcroft said that in contrast to the view that the amendment protected only a collective right of the states to organize and maintain militias, he 'unequivocally' believed that 'the text and the original intent of the Second Amendment clearly protect the right of individuals to keep and bear firearms.'"

Linda Greenhouse was exactly correct. That is what was filed in both Emerson and another case. Unfortunately, "unequivocally" is not exactly what Ashcroft or Olsen intended. Unequivocal would mean that they support the words "shall not be infringed" in the Second Amendment with "no doubt or misunderstanding" and the meaning is "clear and unambiguous."

The words "shall not be infringed" are unequivocal to many of us. "Shall not" is rather clear and needs no explanation to anyone outside of a government office. However, public officials want tight control over the people. Therefore, the Justice Department does not think of our right to keep and bear arms as a "right." Rather, to them it is an inconvenient "privilege" that must be strictly regulated by capricious bureaucrats.

Justice does not want Emerson to be heard by the Supreme Court simply because they know the Court is going to take a very dim view of many gun laws and may wipe our hundreds in one opinion. One only need read Justice Thomas's opinion concurring with the majority in the 1995 U.S. v. Lopez(2) case for a hint. We are sure the Justice Department knows Lopez quite well. Congress tried to regulate guns via the Commerce Clause. But, the Supreme Court did not buy it.

Justice Thomas wrote: "While the principal dissent concedes that there are limits to federal power, the sweeping nature of our current test enables the dissent to argue that Congress can regulate gun possession. But it seems to me that the power to regulate 'commerce' can by no means encompass authority over mere gun possession, any more than it empowers the Federal Government to regulate marriage, littering, or cruelty to animals, throughout the 50 States. Our Constitution quite properly leaves such matters to the individual States, notwithstanding these activities' effects on interstate commerce. Any interpretation of the Commerce Clause that even suggests that Congress could regulate such matters is in need of reexamination."

With that in mind, let's examine some of the Solicitor General's argument filed in Emerson:

"In its brief to the court of appeals, the government argued that the Second Amendment protects only such acts of firearm possession as are reasonably related to the preservation or efficiency of the militia. The current position of the United States, however, is that the Second Amendment more broadly protects the rights of individuals, including persons who are not members of any militia or engaged in active military service or training, to possess and bear their own firearms, subject to reasonable restrictions designed to prevent possession by unfit persons or to restrict the possession of types of firearms that are particularly suited to criminal misuse."

That's ten steps in the correct direction, to be sure. But, it most certainly is not "unequivocal" support of the Second Amendment. The Amendment clearly says "shall not." That is greatly different than restricting "possession of types of firearms" as the government wants to continue.

So, saying that the Emerson Appeals Court decision reflected the kind of narrowly tailored restrictions by which that right could reasonably be limited, the Solicitor General requested the Supreme Court to turn down the appeal.

If the government keeps control over our "right" to keep and bear arms, that right, then, becomes degraded to but a privilege.

It was the intent of the Founding Fathers that the American people shall have the unequivocal right to keep and bear arms and that government "shall not" interfere with that right. That intent was for personal arms one may "bear." Not cannon, howitzers, Apache helicopters, or tanks. Small arms only. Therefore, for small arms made to carry, there should be no restriction by government whatsoever.

To do otherwise is to violate the Constitution, as written. Because, restrictions would violate what Ashcroft called "the amendment's plain meaning and original intent" of the Founding Fathers. What the words "shall not" mean is that the right to keep and bear arms is an absolute right that government may not violate for any reason. As inconvenient as that may seem to our socialist tainted minds nowadays, that was the intent.

The Justice Department wants to have it both ways. That is why we expect the Supreme Court to seriously consider hearing Emerson -- and we hope they do.

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1. http://laws.findlaw.com/5th/9910331cr0.html

2. http://laws.findlaw.com/us/000/u10287.html

 

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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 1shallnotmeans; 2unequivocally; 3notprivilege; archaicgunlaws; banglist; billofrights; guncontrol; interpretation; lopez; originalintent; secondamendment; supcrtemerson; viewfedgov; viewpeople
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To: Texasforever
No thanks tex, its much more amusing to see you do it to yourself, as per your "masterbation" line today, - hilarious! --
261 posted on 05/13/2002 7:41:13 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Bang_list
bang
263 posted on 05/13/2002 7:43:05 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: EricOKC
nuthin :)
264 posted on 05/13/2002 7:58:21 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Texasforever
Just so you can go back to arguing whatever it is you're arguing, the old cannons or mortars are not under any control. As long as it's a blackpowder muzzleloader or something that was built before 1896, anyone can own them. I belonged to a Civil War group and we fired live rounds in conjuncion with the other activities that we hosted. Saturday was live fire day, at night was the awards and Sunday was the big battle.
265 posted on 05/13/2002 8:06:26 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: Abundy
[No judicial legislation incorporating the 2nd into the 14th yet.]

Ready to admit that Congress doesn't "legislate" incorporation...as you posted?

You think Congress is a judicial body?

Amazing.

266 posted on 05/13/2002 8:08:14 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Shooter 2.5
As long as it's a blackpowder muzzleloader or something that was built before 1896, anyone can own them. I belonged to a Civil War group and we fired live rounds in conjuncion with the other activities that we hosted. Saturday was live fire day, at night was the awards and Sunday was the big battle.

Are you allowed private personal target practice?

267 posted on 05/13/2002 8:15:15 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: dcwusmc
...your precious WOsD..

The "right" to smoke crack equals the right to keep and bear arms? One of the more absurd premises of Libertarianism.

268 posted on 05/13/2002 8:18:34 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Texasforever
Sure. The guys who own their own take them out once in a while and the guns that belong to the club had to get permission from the club only because of usage and the price of the firings. You had to practice if you wanted to win. It's no big deal. When we would go down the highway with the gun on the trailer, I would look at the other drivers and no one noticed or cared.
269 posted on 05/13/2002 8:21:17 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: Abundy;tpaine
Thanks much for your input to the several questions I've posted on this thread.

May God save the Republic, and may a few good lawyers please lend a hand.

FREEeeeegards

270 posted on 05/13/2002 8:32:14 PM PDT by JFoxbear
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To: Texasforever
Are you allowed private personal target practice?

Your statist slip is showing there texbaby.

"Are you allowed?" -- Good Lord. --

271 posted on 05/13/2002 8:32:35 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: JFoxbear; Doug Fiedor
Don't forget the input of our articles author.

Thanks & Regards

272 posted on 05/13/2002 8:37:25 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Agreed, and I stand corrected.
273 posted on 05/13/2002 8:42:24 PM PDT by JFoxbear
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To: tpaine
"Are you allowed?" -- Good Lord. --

Tpaine is feeling his oats tonight. LOL

274 posted on 05/13/2002 8:45:57 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: tpaine
Jim's posting guidelines say no personal attacks. So knock it off.

Thank you.

276 posted on 05/13/2002 9:11:08 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
Thanks.

BTW, you might take a glance at #277

278 posted on 05/13/2002 9:18:48 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Thats nothing .. you should see what he sent me in private FRmail ... LOL I responded in kind ... I prolly shouldnt'd have .. but jerkoffs like jackassforever, roscoe, cultural jihad and others of their ilk deserve no less ... :)

And if the Jerkoffs I mentioned want to respond ... PLEASE FEEL FREE!!! But do it here in public! So the whole world will be able to see just what statists assholes you really are! I have lotsa pent up agression I need to release ... LOL

Click on the imageCMHonor to visit the tribute page



279 posted on 05/14/2002 12:13:29 AM PDT by Neil E. Wright
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To: Neil E. Wright
And if the Jerkoffs I mentioned want to respond ... PLEASE FEEL FREE!!! But do it here in public! So the whole world will be able to see just what statists assholes you really are! I have lotsa pent up agression I need to release ... LOL

Soumds like you need to get laid.

280 posted on 05/14/2002 12:15:51 AM PDT by Texasforever
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