Live Thread....Sharon Press Conference.

[agrace]

Zechariah 12:1-3, "The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him. Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it."

Joel 3:1-21, "For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land. And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.

"Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head; Because ye have taken my silver and my gold, and have carried into your temples my goodly pleasant things: The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border. Behold, I will raise them out of the place whither ye have sold them, and will return your recompence upon your own head: And I will sell your sons and your daughters into the hand of the children of Judah, and they shall sell them to the Sabeans, to a people far off: for the LORD hath spoken it.

"Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up: Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong. Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD. Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about. Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great. Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision. The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.

"The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel. So shall ye know that I am the LORD your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more. And it shall come to pass in that day, that the mountains shall drop down new wine, and the hills shall flow with milk, and all the rivers of Judah shall flow with waters, and a fountain shall come forth of the house of the LORD, and shall water the valley of Shittim. Egypt shall be a desolation, and Edom shall be a desolate wilderness, for the violence against the children of Judah, because they have shed innocent blood in their land.

"But Judah shall dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation. For I will cleanse their blood that I have not cleansed: for the LORD dwelleth in Zion."

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

WOW!!!!!! Bush did not tell Sharon to act with restraint!!! In other words: "WEAPONS FREE." That is an amazing statement. All bets are off.

If Bush had made a statement to that effect, he would have come off as an utter fool.

I'm sure hoping that, as many Freepers have expressed on this thread, that the die is now cast. Cry Havoc!

[Lanza]

I didn't know the EU threatened economic sanctions. Interesting, because I got three different opinions on what Sharon meant.

[SKempis]

If Arafat cannot control Hamas, why should Israel negotiate with him?

[Brytani]

Arafat controls Hamas by his refusal to stop, and his obvious approval of attacks by Hamas while sitting there claiming to be the President of Palestine and the ONLY one on the planet who can sign a peace deal for them.

[HiTech RedNeck]

He knew, he had to know, when Bush was going to be meeting with Sharon. So he sends one of the lemmings out to blow the lives out of 15 kids just to make a point.

Arafat may not have planned this particular attack at this particular time. But he has winked, winked, winked at the attacks (that is, when he was not actually calling for them) and he has for years encouraged the mind poisoning of Pallie society and produced this bumper crop of suicide bomber voluteers.

OUT with Arafat. OUT with the terrorist ringleaders.

[Partisan Hack]

Section9, What are those cartoons that you post. They are eerie. I like them though.

[Roger_W_Isom]

Care to wager a new computer????? have you ever heard of a FRONT????? that is what Hamas is BOYS AND GIRLS!!!! a Front for anything that goes wrong????? and I'm PRETTY SURE Sharon has PROOF THAT HAMAS IS JUST THAT!!!

A FRONT FOR THE PLO!!!!

[Zeroisanumber]

I'm not going to type a goddamn essay on the political state of the Palestinian people. Arafat controls the PLO, Hamas is independent of PLO control. The PLO developed in the West Bank, Hamas developed in Lebanon. Arafat and Hamas have been at odds before and their soldiers have clashed in the past. When Arafat wants to send a suicide bomber he uses the Al-Asquah(sp?)Martyr's brigade, not Hamas.

[Partisan Hack]

INMHO, the fact that Sharon spoke from US soil indicates that Bush has given Sharon the green light (aka, weapons free) Why would that maje him look like a fool?

[SKempis]

Yes ma'am, I grew up with it. It's hard to ignore no doubt.

[goodnesswins]

IT is SOOOOO complicated - sounds more like GANGS fighting than anything.

[Robert-J]

So, you are saying that if you wrote an essay, it would be damned of God? What are you saying about yourself and your ideas?

[SevenofNine]

OHHHH I saw press conference I think certain Israel PM might be leading smackdown on Arafat HEYYYY DUBYA Arafat is no partner of peace HELLO He is thug Come on Ariel give me that IDF Smackdown honey

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

"Sharon just told us where we can stick our "peace" plan. ....And God bless him for doing so." This is what I think happened. Powell can move on to something else now. Talking is done.

Israel is going to implement their own "peace plan" now.

[dalebert]

You are right.

[Roger_W_Isom]

GW should IMMEDIATELY issue a NATIONAL EXECUTIVE ORDER on that TRUELY JOYOUS DAY when we are informed of that freaks death that, HENCEFORTH ALL AMERICANS WILL CELEBRATE ARAFAGS DEATH!!!!

[Texasforever]

Israel is going to implement their own "peace plan" now.

Wanna bet?

[Zeroisanumber]

Good question. I assume that Israel (and our own country) believes that by making peace with the group that represents the majority of Palestinians the radicals will be left high and dry. Sort of like what happened to the Real IRA in N. Ireland after the majority of the IRA laid down their arms.

[hole_n_one]

I hope you're not watching that SOB Rahman instead of the Laker game

Of course I'm watching the game..........

the pic of Rahman was something that I already had stored on my hardrive..........

that fact alone has to speak volumes as to how pathetic I am....