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Too Late to Stop National ID
Toogood Reports ^ | 11-29-01 | Roger F. Gay

Posted on 05/07/2002 7:20:30 AM PDT by serinde

"Imagine a state in which you must register your name and address with the authorities, just so they can find you in case you break the law. In an age when bills vaunting protections for privacy abound, and when surveys of consumers rank privacy as a top concern, could that happen here? It is already happening. When we rely on the federal government to solve our problems, we invite it to intrude upon our privacy. We are asking Big Brother to come in and make himself at home."
How Big Brother Began, Solveig Singleton, Cato Institute

Changes in technology have left a nation confused about how the modern national ID system is implemented. Visions of passports with stamped pages need to be replaced with the modern reality of the computer age. Centrally located file cabinets filled with hand written cards have been replaced by interconnected databases in a huge distributed system.

It has long since been understood that safeguarding our freedom requires limiting the government's access to personal information. Where a legitimate purpose is served, government agencies have been allowed to accumulate limited information for specific purposes. Over the past decade a dramatic shift has taken place. The government has developed the ability to accumulate the maximum amount of information and provided central access to an army of low level bureaucrats. All signs indicate that this is just a beginning.

During the eight years of the Clinton administration, the federal government spent approximately four billion dollars developing a national database system for keeping track of intimate details of the lives of all Americans. Funding, and in fact the project itself was never held up for close public scrutiny. Most of the people reading this article have never heard of the project. Of those who have, many probably believe it was either shut down for lack of public support, or limited in purpose.

In order to understand the potential of such a system it is worthwhile to consider its cost. Four billion dollars is a huge amount of money to spend on development of a computer system. It could buy more than sixty million hours (thirty thousand years) of engineering consulting time. It is enough to pay 130,000 people an average income for one year. It is more than enough to buy a million modern desktop computers; each one powerful enough to manage a database containing information about every man, woman, and child in the United States, and then some.

Four billion dollars is a lot of money. It would buy almost ninety B-2 stealth bombers. It is enough to pay for about forty thousand average homes. It is enough to send about one hundred thousand students to college for one year or buy hot lunches for every elementary school child in the United States for five hundred years.

As awesome as the price tag is, the excuses for its existence have been poor. The premier reason it was built, according to most official reports, is to track child support payments and people who are supposed to make them. But state and county governments, already armed with their own computers resisted. Propaganda campaigns exaggerated claims of non-payment to the level of a national emergency, but were countered with real data from the national census and other research showing that fully employed fathers pay well. Fathers of children supported by welfare are often poor, unskilled, too sick to work, in jail, unknown, or dead. Another database system does nothing to reduce poverty.

The database would be used to catch illegal aliens. This was a short-lived excuse. One only needed to point out that illegal aliens would probably be the only people not registered.

As weak as the justification is, the child support excuse still had the necessary characteristics. The government wanted to look into every important detail of a person's life. Laws were passed to require financial institutions to provide detailed information on transactions. Systems were integrated so that information obtained from all government sources would be available in one search, and so that businesses and other private organizations could contribute and access information. "Deadbeat dad" propaganda was intense. As long as people could believe that fathers do not deserve fundamental human rights, they could accept the logic of unconstitutional privacy infringements.

States were initially asked to pay half the cost. The problem that states were not interested was overcome by a creative funding strategy. The federal government paid the cost of developing the system and added incentive payments of more than one billion dollars per year to encourage states to use it. With the inclusion of this funding, every politician, bureaucrat, judge, and prosecutor instantly became a "deadbeat dad" hunter. The combined state / federal system now employs more than fifty thousand people nationwide.

Those in Congress who promoted the system promised repeatedly that it would only be used to track child support payments and people who are supposed to pay. But as soon as the system could function, that cover was blown. The database became known as the "National Directory of New Hires." The name reflected the first strategy for registering people. Rather than registering child support debtors, everyone taking a new job would be registered. This strategy eventually shifted to registration of everyone with a job, a social security number, a driver's license, a bank account, a telephone; anyone for which there is a source of information. You can be located whatever you do, and the government will know what you do.

The Bush administration does not appear to be set to improve the record. Amidst a flurry of anti-terrorism legislation, administration officials have issued several denials that a national ID system is even contemplated. We already have a modern computerized system in place that is far more effective than any identification and tracking system the Nazis or the Soviet Communists ever had. Common sense suggests that possession of such an Orwellian tool has not escaped their notice.

The primary contractor for the database system was Andersen Consulting. The company broke from international financial services consulting firm Arthur Andersen, Andersen Worldwide this year and was renamed Accenture Ltd. Accenture is based in Bermuda, a well-known offshore tax and privacy haven.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: privacy; security
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1 posted on 05/07/2002 7:20:31 AM PDT by serinde
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To: serinde
Rather than registering child support debtors, everyone taking a new job would be registered. This strategy eventually shifted to registration of everyone with a job, a social security number, a driver's license, a bank account, a telephone; anyone for which there is a source of information.

Give 'em a phony SS number when you get a new job (transpose two digits so it looks like a typo). After a month or two, when your profile has been sent to the national registry, tell your employer you noticed that your SS number is mistyped and should be corrected.

2 posted on 05/07/2002 7:41:04 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: serinde
Fait accompli. And America was supposed to be different.
3 posted on 05/07/2002 7:44:32 AM PDT by al-andalus
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs
Actually, the only thing in freedom's favor is government inefficiency. Anyone who has dealt with the Feds--including illegals and terrorists--knows they lose data, misplace files, the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, et cetera.

The hard question for freedom-loving Americans is, do you want your government to be more efficient? Tough call.
4 posted on 05/07/2002 7:53:25 AM PDT by al-andalus
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To: serinde
People are incredibly naive.

We already have telephones that can be opened for listening with four mics in them (Telephonic ringer, headphone, mouthpiece, and the area mic.)

Everytime you use a plastic grocery card or any credit card you "locate"yourself.

The latest law is that all calls must be locatabkle withing the nearest 150 feet.

We are already cattle, so why worry about "becoming" cattle.

Moooo....

5 posted on 05/07/2002 7:54:03 AM PDT by RISU
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To: al-andalus
2 late BUMP
7 posted on 05/07/2002 8:07:40 AM PDT by timestax
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To: serinde
The primary contractor for the database system was Andersen Consulting. The company broke from international financial services consulting firm Arthur Andersen, Andersen Worldwide this year and was renamed Accenture Ltd. Accenture is based in Bermuda, a well-known offshore tax and privacy haven.

Somehow, this seems appropriate.

9 posted on 05/07/2002 8:27:31 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: GirlyGirl
True. However, I hope you don't plan to work, bank, drive or purchase anything because you'll need that mag strip or chip to do them...
10 posted on 05/07/2002 8:29:56 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: serinde
Can I get mine tatooed on my forearm, or forehead, so that I could not buy nor sell without the number?
11 posted on 05/07/2002 8:34:44 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: GirlyGirl
With this new card, it will soon replace cash money. This card isn't about security, it's about redistribution of wealth. It's about controlling your money, and your life. One slip up, and some unseen government official can stop you from driving a car, using your hard earned money, and keep you from going anywhere. Now this is okay if you're a criminal, but what if you're a person on Free Republic who writes something that is not government friendly? What if one of their monitors, sees something they don't like and all of a sudden you're broke, and unable to drive anywhere? What if you're wrongly accused and convicted of a crime, and they freeze your money? What if you die, and your spouse who survives you gets half of everything taken out of your bank account, just because you've died, and the death tax needs to be paid? You see, there's a lot of potential impropriety.

I don't trust ANY official to do anything in my best interest. This card will be misused. This card is about monitoring and controlling your life. It's a way to generate revenue for the government, and a way for big business to track your credit and purchases. This is too much power for ANYONE. No government by the people for the people would ever put forth legislation that could possibly be misused, or used for evil purposes. This is Larry Ellison's way of ensuring his Oracle Stock stays High, and how he gets to vicariously control America for the next 50 years.

If it's too late to stop this ID, then there should be an immediate provision that it only be given to IMMIGRANTS. Lawful citizens do NOT need the scrutiny, however Immigrants, legal or illegal do.

12 posted on 05/07/2002 8:37:02 AM PDT by MadRobotArtist
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To: MadRobotArtist
If it's too late to stop this ID, then there should be an immediate provision that it only be given to IMMIGRANTS.

If it is too late to stop National ID, the word that comes to mind isn't immigrants, it's EMMIGRANTS.

Lots of people came to this country seeking freedom, so too will they leave in pursuit of it.

13 posted on 05/07/2002 8:43:10 AM PDT by freeeee
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To: al-andalus
Actually, the only thing in freedom's favor is government inefficiency. Anyone who has dealt with the Feds--including illegals and terrorists--knows they lose data, misplace files, the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, et cetera. . . . . The hard question for freedom-loving Americans is, do you want your government to be more efficient? Tough call.

There is a downside to the government's inefficiency. If some clerk somewhere accidentally mishandles your data, you may find that you are "deceased," or that you never existed at all. Suddenly, you cannot cash a check, use a credit card, get a job, or travel abroad. Only after considerable time, effort, and expense are you able to correct the error. And of course, you will not be permitted to sue the government for damages.

14 posted on 05/07/2002 8:59:39 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: serinde
Too Late to Stop National ID

Isn't the whole point of fora such as FR to undo what would otherwise be "too late"? Yeah, it's too late, if you assume that we have to keep playing this stupid game every two and four years of letting the insiders choose our candidates for us and then pretend that we're exercising such free-thinking autonomy by dutifully picking which of their two stooges that we want. And then we act surprised when things continue to slide away from us?

I'm directing this comment to those who consistently argue that we have to "compromise" and keep sticking with the GOP no matter what they do. I want to hear from you. What say ye now?

16 posted on 05/07/2002 12:26:34 PM PDT by inquest
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To: serinde
Four billion dollars is a lot of money.

The author forgets that this is government we're talking about. They've got to pay for the extra benefits, diversity training, etc, etc.... Government $ just don't go quite as far.

17 posted on 05/07/2002 12:45:32 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: serinde; A Ruckus of Dogs; al-andalus; RISU; Norvokov; timestax; Logophile; Black Agnes; ...
National ID Card Link Site
18 posted on 09/02/2002 11:39:40 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: Right To Life
I guess you're not on my bump list. Should you be?
19 posted on 09/02/2002 11:49:12 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: All
There will come a day when conscious humans will realize they do not need external authorities (such as governments) to rule and control their daily lives in order to make them "do good", and "behave"...

Conscious humans will realize that forced backed external authorities are THE PROBLEM, not the solution...

Conscious humans will realize that those that produce values (individuals/businesses) are much more valuble to society than those that destroy values (governments)...

Conscious humans will then reduce government to the size necessary to perform government's only legimate reason to exist at all...

To protect the rights of the individual...

Humans will then understand that consciousness is the most powerful force in the Universe...

That consciousness is killed when it is bound by chains of force and control...

All forms of socialsm/liberalism will cease to exist on planet earth...

Only then will true freedom exist for consciousness...

No national ID necessary...

20 posted on 09/02/2002 12:21:59 PM PDT by Ferris
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