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Homosexual Priests: A Time for Truth
The Washington Dispatch ^ | 05/06/02 | Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson

Posted on 05/06/2002 6:17:00 AM PDT by Spin

In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

The purpose of the press is to let the truth be known to the people. But having seen report after report of the sex scandal in the Catholic Church, I am sorry to say that yet again the media is failing us by refusing to tell us that the primary problem within the church is an epidemic of homosexual priests. We know that most victims of these crimes are young boys, and the perpetrators are grown men—why is it so hard to say that this epidemic is a direct result of homosexuals being given authority that they should not have?

We’ve heard for some time now about priests who are openly homosexual, but apparently few within the Church seemed to see a need to resolve this issue. It’s even more troubling, then, that the media is so unwilling to report something that has long been known. Of course we know that the media is basically liberal, and has the intent of promoting a biased agenda. But you’d think that at least some would have the good sense to report honestly when the physical and psychological safety of so many children are at stake.

If the media, the most far-reaching informational source, refuse to accurately report this predominantly homosexual scandal, then the truth is being concealed and this problem may never be resolved. If something isn’t done, homosexuals will continue to gain authority over our children and country, and the effects will be disastrous.

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To: Clint N. Suhks
Celibacy does not cause perversion.

But try going without sex for a year, or a lifetime--without any hope of fulfillment. A lot of (if not most) people in that situation would be pretty messed up.

If priests were allowed to marry, they could channel their sexual energies in more appropriate ways. God gave Adam and Eve a commandment to "multiply and replenish the earth." When did he rescind it?

21 posted on 05/06/2002 8:12:44 AM PDT by wai-ming
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To: wai-ming
There is ample evidence that plenty of hanky-panky was going on between the priests and the nuns in Mexico (abortion and infanticide were used to hide the results of illicit sex among so-called celibates). When bones of dead infants were discovered buried behind the walls of convents, the government instituted an "open door" policy, mandating that church activities no longer be kept hidden from the public.

This is an old slander. It's one of the staples of anti-Catholicism. Do you have a (credible) source for this story?

But try going without sex for a year, or a lifetime--without any hope of fulfillment. A lot of (if not most) people in that situation would be pretty messed up.

What do you make of Jesus' and St. Paul's comments on celibacy then?

22 posted on 05/06/2002 8:21:36 AM PDT by fdcc
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To: wai-ming
For Catholic priests, sometime around the first millenium according to the Pope, whose pronouncements in these matters are the word of God and therefore infallible. < /partial sarcasm>
23 posted on 05/06/2002 8:21:46 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave
In regards to the origins of priestly celibacy:

For Catholic priests, sometime around the first millenium according to the Pope, whose pronouncements in these matters are the word of God and therefore infallible. < /partial sarcasm>

It was an old practice when it was finally made a universal discipline. And long before celibacy was mandatory, the church expected a married man to cease having relations with his wife when he was ordained a priest. Though inconsistently applied, widely disregarded, and sometimes openly flouted, priestly celibacy has its origins in the very, very early church.

24 posted on 05/06/2002 8:27:41 AM PDT by fdcc
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To: wai-ming
But try going without sex for a year, or a lifetime--without any hope of fulfillment. A lot of (if not most) people in that situation would be pretty messed up.

I guess the above would be true if sex is the most important thing and the central thing in one's life.

26 posted on 05/06/2002 9:01:00 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: onesog
See, a Catholic priest is to be a eunuch. One who has neither heterosexual NOR homosexual tendencies. As the Catholics see it he is to be above this earthy realm and the lusts there of. For a Catholic priest to desire either a male lover or a female lover is to absolve him of the privilege to remain a priest.

See, you're full of it.

There is no such thing as a human being who has no sexual tendencies. Even a eunuch (a castrated male) still has sexual desires. If someone tells you they have no sexual desires or thoughts, they're lying.

Your analysis of the theology of the priesthood, seeing as how you're not even Catholic, is noted, but is completely wrong. As is your gratuitious swiping at NWUArmyROTC, who happens to be correct about Catholic teaching regarding homosexuality: the orientation is not sinful, the actions are.

28 posted on 05/06/2002 9:14:00 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Spin
The media is not reporting the homosexual aspect of much of the abuse. And since progressive Catholics are exploiting the abuses to make internal reforms, a problem caused by homosexuals could actually lead to a wider acceptance of homosexual priests.

In the last two decades people have learned that gays are spreading AIDS, and yet at the same time people have sympathized with the gay crusade to normalize their lifestyle. This is really the same kind of thing.

29 posted on 05/06/2002 9:14:07 AM PDT by tenderstone jr.
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To: onesog
Let us see, You just launched a nice personal attack upon me, as a result, I will do the same, however, I will strive to be more mature and civilized than you are, and a better Christian by not being quite so personal.

I know you can read, so I will direct to the line you quoted earlier, "I do not believe homosexuality is a sin, but like my Church I believe acting upon it is." Everything you mentioned as reasons why homosexuality is a sin involves acting upon that homosexuality. Sleeping with another man, that is acting upon it. I agree it is a thin line, that is why perhaps it is nearly impossible to find a homosexual capable of living the life of priest. However read more carefully next time. ACTING UPON THE URGES IS A SIN, if we remove the occasion of sin as my confessor told me, we move to eliminate the sin itself, though that is very very difficult if not impossible.

And as a Christian I ask you about Jesus' own words on how we are to live, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." I am a sinner, I know that, I know I can never achieve the example He set for us, but I try, but can never, I am a sinner, I recognize that, and as a result, I am slow to completely condemn people, perhaps it is a weakness, but that weakness is better than others that I know of, self-righteousness is a sin as well.

God Bless
30 posted on 05/06/2002 9:14:35 AM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat
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To: Spin
Good read--and happy he is talking about it...but Ihave lost hope on this issue.

Homosexuals are too powerful. They have money and the media behind them.

For this reason, they cannot lose.

Three years ago, I logged on the Media Research Center website for an article discussing the hiring of new journalists.

In it, they discussed how major media (New York Times, Newsweek, Time, CBS) had sponsored recruiting tables at major journalism schools and colleges around the nation. What shocked me was that they had open tents for "Gays Only" and actually had quotas.

How many people really read The Washington Dispatch? Not many, I am sorry to say.

I don't mean to sound defeatist, but there is NO way the media will allow this scandal to tarnish homosexuals. None, zero, zilch.

The rally cry is already out, and the talking points have been issued by GLADD and the rest:

1. Homosexuals are being "Scapegoated"

2. Homosexuals don't target young boys

3. There are more heterosexual pedophiles than homosexual ones (warped data because of low numbers of homosexuals in the general population--but you have to explain that one, and by then, your average soccer mom or Joe sixpack has lost you)

4. Homosexuals and their organizations are "100% behind the victims" (there is a pun there--but it is too tragic to laugh)

5. When all else fails, say the name "Matthew Shepard" as loud and as fast as you can


33 posted on 05/06/2002 9:27:27 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: onesog
Homosexuals are a group of disease infested, child molesting perverts.

Nothing like painting everybody with the same brush.

34 posted on 05/06/2002 9:32:03 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: Spin
The greatest thing Evil can do is pretend it doesn't exist - therefore it must infest that which is good and destroy from the inside. The scandal is those who allowed it to fester and those who do not report it!
35 posted on 05/06/2002 9:47:32 AM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001
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To: wai-ming
wai-ming says:
Won't that just create a community of sexually deprived heterosexuals, who go after another easy target: little girls.

Clint asks:
Did you bump your head before you wrote this? You think celibacy causes one to practice perversion?

wai-ming responds:
Celibacy does not cause perversion.

So which is it? Celibacy “creates” people who practice perversion or celibacy doesn’t cause perversion? Do we believe you now or then, or are you just trying to side step your stupidity?

But try going without sex for a year, or a lifetime--without any hope of fulfillment. A lot of (if not most) people in that situation would be pretty messed up.

Pretty messed up? So the majority of priests who keep their commitment are “pretty messed up?” So the people who practice abstinence until marriage are “pretty messed up?” Why don’t at least be honest and say this is my ignorant opinion when you write such tripe, you have absolutely no proof, no evidence, absolutely nothing to back up what you’re saying.

If priests were allowed to marry, they could channel their sexual energies in more appropriate ways.

Again, more ignorant opinion that you can’t support, go spread your bull somewhere else.

God gave Adam and Eve a commandment to "multiply and replenish the earth." When did he rescind it?

That is through the covenant of marriage, you think God was referring to people out of wedlock? You really need to do some homework pal, your opinion is ignorant and your comprehension is inferior.

37 posted on 05/06/2002 9:56:30 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: onesog
Non-functioning testes would and should be what all those who wish to be Catholic priests endure during their time of service to the Church.

What does this have to do with sexual desires?

BTW, did you know that a castrated man will not be accepted into a seminary? Automatic disqualification for the priesthood. `

It helps to know what you are talking about when you try to correct someone sinkspur.

You left the Church, pal. That tells me all I need to know about you.

39 posted on 05/06/2002 10:00:32 AM PDT by sinkspur
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