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To: semper_libertas
All of nature is a fight for life Av.
Humans as much as any plant, insect or mammal.
Well, that's different. I did not know you had joined with the gang. You know, those guys C.S. Lewis dubbed "The Conditioners."

You do not hold then with Gen 1:26?

Which places man above the lower species. Well, at least among the God fearing.

You've left that behind? I did not think so. Et tu semper_libertas? You are now in agreement with secular humanists? We are on top only because of our higher intellects? The same creed which by extension says: "Ergo, humans with higher intellects than other humans are, by right, higher up the food chain ." In that case -- worth the reminder to those who think this way -- even y'all hafta watch yer back. <g>

It stands to reason that the greatest affairs of man involve life and death decisions.
Human history is a history of men killing men.
You fear that the superior powers which govern us may be conspiring to kill us by the 100's of thousands.
[Actually, no. I say billions]

I disagree.
Slave owners go to great lengths to protect the lives of their slaves.

I cannot help but notice the grand success you've had preventing the evidence from penetrating this illusion.

Every 20th Century Tyranny from the Soviet Union to the Hutus in Rwanda found ways to abort, starve, torture, wholesale murder, cannon fodder, or dissappear vast tens of millions of its slaves.
China and Sudan still do; Zimbabwe is building up to it.
And all this with the tacit approval of the overarching controlling authorities at the U.N., rubberstamped by some in the U.S. Everything from "Atrocities? What atrocities? " to "We choose not to use the word genocide at this time."

Does that look the same as traditional protection of chattel slavery of which you refer?
Isn't it more inline with our experience of what happens when overpopulated herds are culled?

I most certainly could be wrong. I certainly hope that I am.
But what if I'm correct in my reading of what I see as overwhelming evidence?
Then your concerns over oligarchic statism -- what you see as gradually asserting itself ever more obviously, unmoved that more people figure it out, becoming ever more despotic -- ought rightly be a very real, and deadly, concern.

Well then, your personal choice over how you might or might not influence posterity is clearly at stake.

Cheers.

--Av

232 posted on 05/06/2002 2:13:41 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla
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