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Fishermen lose out; federal judge orders Klamath River water to farmers
Associated Press / SFGate

Posted on 05/03/2002 4:23:57 PM PDT by RCW2001

Edited on 04/04/2004 3:52:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A federal judge on Friday rejected an effort by commercial anglers, tribes and environmental groups seeking to force the government to release more water to the Klamath River instead of diverting it to farms.

Commercial fishermen sued the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation and the National Marine Fisheries Service last month, arguing that water being stored for farmers should be released to help young salmon migrate to the ocean.


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To: RCW2001
"The sad part is, we have salmon being stranded right now. We have fish being rescued," she said.

Should make it easy for the "fishermen" to catch them, right?

Klamath Farmers BTTT

21 posted on 05/03/2002 5:13:07 PM PDT by hattend
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To: Free the USA, seamole
ping
22 posted on 05/03/2002 5:14:46 PM PDT by madfly
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To: Grampa Dave
Bump to your #14! That is the truth!
23 posted on 05/03/2002 5:15:34 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: countrydummy
the US Fish and WildLife took clubs and beat salmon in the head to kill them!

I've got the solution.......let the fishermen go up and do the clubbing!

24 posted on 05/03/2002 5:18:52 PM PDT by StriperSniper
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To: Grampa Dave
Bump to #14. It must be group hysteria.
25 posted on 05/03/2002 5:21:20 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: RCW2001
What's with the Indians in this battle? I have a friend who's incredibly sympathetic to the Indians in all this, and I fail to see what they have to do with it. Are they a ligitimate tribe or just political opportunists?
26 posted on 05/03/2002 5:24:38 PM PDT by holyscroller
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To: Grampa Dave
Bump to that!
27 posted on 05/03/2002 5:24:47 PM PDT by facedown
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To: holyscroller
They are both legitimate tribes and political opportunists. The ones around the Klamath Basin tried to say that the bony and rotten/slimy Short Nosed Sucker Fish was part of their religion. No anthropologists have ever found any evidence of the bones and heads of these fish eaten in the camp areas where their ancestors dwelled. That claim doesn't hold any water nor deserve any water.

Being part Indian myself, I find this claim to be an outrage. Why would I want to eat a foul tasting/bony slimey sucker when I could eat the wonderful trout in the Klamath Lake or the two rivers that feed it. Then, I could come down stream a little along the Klamath and catch/spear the King of Salmon, King Salmon or the wonderful tasting steelhead. To get me to eat a sucker fish, you would have drug, beat me and maybe shot me. To get me to eat good salmon/trout just call me over for dinner.

When there are Salmon or steelhead, these tribal people should be allowed catch and kill what they want up and down these streams and rivers. However, please don't play a game about re the Sucker Fish.

28 posted on 05/03/2002 5:36:15 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: *Klamath_list
index bump
29 posted on 05/03/2002 5:42:04 PM PDT by Fish out of Water
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To: PatrioticAmerican; Excuse_My_Bellicosity; Carry Okie
Maybe we need a group slap in! Today is not 1 April as a cruel April Fool Joke is it?

Actually we need to start Bitch Slapping all of the enviral nazis and their federal/state liars with Rico Suits. After a few of them get Bitch Slapped with Rico suits, lose some big time court cases, this Bravo Sierra will stop.

Mr Carry Okie, the orginator of using Rico Suits to Bitch Slap these enviral whackos will hopefully add to this reply of mine. He will explain the cure of this madness and how to use Rico suits for Bitch Slapping these Enviral Nazis. Rico Suits really caught the recent attention of the Catholic church in another issue.

30 posted on 05/03/2002 5:42:40 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: madfly
Amen brother madfly!
31 posted on 05/03/2002 5:44:13 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
I like your style!
32 posted on 05/03/2002 5:51:42 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: countrydummy;
It sure sounds like it. Hopefully we will hear from some of our freepers who live in this area and have been fighting these bastards for over a year. Ironically it was about 1 year ago when AuntB alerted all of us to the rural cleansing going on in the Klamath Basin.

Shame on you AuntB, you noisy old woman interferring with the head Nazi Andy Kerr and his little enviral goose steppers. They were just rurally cleansing the farmers/ranchers for the chilrun of the sucker fish! Now those innocent chilrun of the sucker fish will suffer.

Great Job AuntB! This should make your weekend!

33 posted on 05/03/2002 5:52:35 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: EverOnward
Thank you! Some like it and some don't. But that is America!
34 posted on 05/03/2002 5:53:44 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Icono Clast2
Jim, who were the lawyers in this great case?
35 posted on 05/03/2002 5:54:43 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: madfly,CincinnatiKid ,jd792 ,dixie sass,chesty puller,antivenom,muggs ,Grendelgrey ,GRRRRR ,uscon
PINGS FOR VICTORY
36 posted on 05/03/2002 5:55:15 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Grampa Dave
Grampa Dave, I love this post! I will now ping you on the next "Klamath Falls" us, me! And By-God we are determined to win also!

Although we are not fish...we are land owners and at least us serfs have a voice and we are using it to the max!

37 posted on 05/03/2002 6:17:29 PM PDT by countrydummy
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To: RCW2001;Grampa Dave
In recent days, biologists and U.S. Forest Service employees have rescued hundreds of baby salmon and other fish stranded in puddles along the banks of the Klamath.

This is pure BS and I suspect the plaintiffs came up with this jive to sway the court. Every year fish are stranded by high water flows we call spring "freshets" and become easy prey for...gulp..."endangered birds and mammals". From 72 till 92 we owned a fishing lodge for our private use on the Klamath at Weitchpec upriver fron the confluence of the Trinity.

Now here is a rub for you. On the Trinity these socialist have won a huge increase in the release of water from Trinity lake. So much water that there are warnings posted this weekend to all river users for exceedingly high and swift flows . How many fish will stranded by this man made flood???

All of this is in todays Times-Standard.com

38 posted on 05/03/2002 6:24:14 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: thud
ping
39 posted on 05/03/2002 7:11:47 PM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: RCW2001
"The sad part is, we have salmon being stranded right now. We have fish being rescued," she said.

I wonder how many of these "rescued" salmon are ending up on the grill?

40 posted on 05/03/2002 7:17:31 PM PDT by jackbill
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