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Prove Evolution: Win $250,000!
Creation Science Evangelism ^ | N/A | Dr. Ken Hovind

Posted on 05/02/2002 6:48:03 AM PDT by handk

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To: Phaedrus
1 "Evolution does not exclude purpose."

2 "It does exclude purpose."

3 "Interesting. You are saying that your all powerful all knowing God is incapable of creating a universe with purpose that utilizes evolutionary mechanisms."

Nonsense. I'm saying what I'm saying. But you are indulging in mischaracterization of someone elses post, a sophomoric Evol debating tactic.

Well, if the mechanism of evolution, as a necessity of logic, excludes purpose, then you HAVE to be saying that God is incapable of creating a universe in which evolution occurs -- because such an act would render it purposeless.

So your God has his limits. He's not all powerful, he's not all knowing. Even he can't alter causality, the rules of logic, to suit his purposes.

161 posted on 05/02/2002 7:19:48 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: RadioAstronomer
Best selling to whom?

Best selling in comparison to his 20 hour rants on any other topic. :-)

162 posted on 05/02/2002 7:21:47 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: longshadow;PatrickHenry
"No personal attacks. No profanity. No lewd placemarkers."

At least we have not mentioned asteroids!

163 posted on 05/02/2002 7:21:49 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: jlogajan
Best selling in comparison to his 20 hour rants on any other topic. :-)

You mean even he can endure a 20 hour rant from himself? ROTFLMAO!

164 posted on 05/02/2002 7:23:22 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
At least we have not mentioned asteroids!

I'm not experiencing any discomfort sitting down, so I never think about asteroids.

165 posted on 05/02/2002 7:24:20 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
I'm not experiencing any discomfort sitting down, so I never think about asteroids.

Now you have done it! You went and mentioned asteroids!

166 posted on 05/02/2002 7:27:08 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Tribune7
creationism and evolution have equal scientific validity.

Yeah, in the same way fairies and germ theory have equal scientific validity. ha ha ha

167 posted on 05/02/2002 7:27:19 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: PatrioticAmerican
Prove creationism.

Too easy. Adam's rib...yours too.

168 posted on 05/02/2002 7:28:11 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Too easy. Adam's rib...yours too.

Hmmm... I have a big toe also. How does a rib prove creationism?

169 posted on 05/02/2002 7:34:58 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: jlogajan
Yeah, in the same way fairies and germ theory have equal scientific validity. ha ha ha

You don't believe in fairy rings? :-)

170 posted on 05/02/2002 7:37:32 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
How does a rib prove creationism?

BBQ Sauce = intelligent design. :-)

171 posted on 05/02/2002 7:40:43 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan
BBQ Sauce = intelligent design. :-)

Eat you way to God thru ribs! LOL!!!!!!!!

172 posted on 05/02/2002 7:42:51 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: jlogajan
Yeah, in the same way fairies and germ theory have equal scientific validity. ha ha ha

Well, I guess that shows me.

173 posted on 05/02/2002 7:48:03 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
So, women really ARE the inferior being! I mean, a rib? You know, the cheap cut! I'm going to Hell for that one."
174 posted on 05/02/2002 7:52:42 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: Doctor Stochastic
I have to somewhat agree with you on that....the deathbed confession is just a rumor.....some evidence points to it, but some does not and I don't think we can say with confidence he recanted his theory at the end.
175 posted on 05/02/2002 7:54:34 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Tribune7
Well, I guess that shows me.

Well, your assertion was silly. The only "proofs" you find in science are of the mathematical type. Everything else is best fit observationally contingent modeling. Scientists don't talk of certainties, they put probabilities around everything -- error bars.

Newton's physical law theory is pretty darn useful -- yet it diverges from reality at speeds approaching light. Einstein and others improved upon the theory, made the error bars smaller. Someone else may improve upon Einstein.

Biblical creationism isn't a theory based in observation and it isn't amenable to proof. It is not in the realm of science -- it is an article of faith. Evolution, on the other hand, is based solely on observations -- in the lab, in the feild, in the fossil record. That's science.

176 posted on 05/02/2002 7:55:58 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: handk
Right. Dr. Hovind has devoted his life and ministry since 1989 to debunking evolution

So. there are people out there who have devoted their lives to proving that; the House of Windsor are drug-running alien lizards; that Con-Ed is keeping Tesla's bounty from the public; that a tightly controlled conspiracy of several thousand individuals (including Jackie) killed JFK; and much else besides.

All idiots.

177 posted on 05/02/2002 7:56:59 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: Oztrich Boy
the House of Windsor are drug-running alien lizards

So you're saying they're not!?!? :-)

179 posted on 05/02/2002 7:59:32 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan
That's science.

I completely agree. I would also like to add, a theory will ALWAYS remain a theory no matter how much evidence is accumulated.

180 posted on 05/02/2002 8:01:15 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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