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Tom Clancy: Sellout, or did he just lose creative control?
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Posted on 04/30/2002 7:09:08 PM PDT by Liberty Tree Surgeon

Has anyone caught the previews for the movie, "The Sum of All Fears"? In it, they specifically tell the audience that the evil terrorists are European neo-nazis. I refer you to Yahoo! Movies for a brief description to this effect.

The only problem with this is that in the book, the terrorists responsible for blowing up the Super Bowl are Islamic Fundamentalists working out of Lebanon.

So, did Clancy sell out, or sell the film rights without keeping a degree of creative control?

LTS


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KEYWORDS: clancy; islam; sumofallfears
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To: SamAdams76
That NYTBR review I referred to, which was right on target, was quite famous in literary circles because it sparked a feud between Clancy and Buckley that was conducted over fax machines. An interesting exchange of insults and opinions. (Parts of it were published somewhere.) For some reason I can't find any references to it on the web. It hasn't been more than 10 years.

Anyway, the single thing I remember now from Buckley's review, which is what triggered my memory here, was that he said the book, whatever its title, read less like a novel than like a movie treatment, ready to be turned into a shot by shot screenplay.

21 posted on 04/30/2002 7:49:33 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: FreeperinRATcage
Always thought Clancy was of conservative bent...not so sure now.

Well, he's conservative on the 2nd Amendment. At his home on the Chesapeake Bay he has an indoor shooting range and when you drive up the road to the house there's a tank sitting at the top of the hill.

(I was a gopher for a while and drove someone out to his house.)

23 posted on 04/30/2002 7:53:07 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Biker Scum
Well Clancy is good when he sticks to what he does best: Military affairs, espionage and terrorism. He should leave the touchy-feely stuff to others. His attempts to make Cathy Ryan the "perfect woman with a perfect career" are pretty lame. It just isn't realistic to have two parents with highly demanding careers and somehow finding time to properly raise a kid in the process. Yeah, I know it's fiction but I find the Cathy Ryan character one-dimensional and a distraction to the story at hand.
24 posted on 04/30/2002 8:04:22 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: brbethke
Yes, that would explain the watermelon in the missle silo in that scene in HFRO.
25 posted on 04/30/2002 8:05:58 PM PDT by dwollmann
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To: brbethke
Crichton's "books" are, for the most part, screenplays.

Timeline, while interesting, was nothing but a screenplay. I felt like I was "reading" a movie the whole time.

It's just gotten worse since Jurassic Park!

However, after saying all this I still like Crichton and my favorite was/is Rising Sun. The way the walls start to close in was disturbing.

Most author's sell(sell-out) when turning their book into a movie. They let the producers screw with the books however they please.

Clancy's are some of the worst regarding the original text. It's not just that they screw up some plot or subplot, but the overall tone as well. They turn Conservative>Liberal. Clear and Present Danger was pathetic in turning everyone into a bad guy. They even had Ryan testify before Congress. What P.C. B.S.!

Now they change Arabs into Neo-Nazis, granted this was before 9-11. But the plot is to try and get Russia and the US into a war which leaves the Neo-Nazis with what exactly? A Nuked E.U?

More PC B.S. which leaves the producers with huge egg on their face. Clancy cashed the check, sadly that's all that matters to him.

That's why Crichton even directed a few of his own books.

Bottom Line: It's just about the $$$.

27 posted on 04/30/2002 8:30:30 PM PDT by TD911
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
I believe Ben Affleck as Jack Ryan about as much as I did Alec Baldwin in that role.

Which is to say, NOT AT ALL</b. I won't waste a dime on seeing this flick.

28 posted on 04/30/2002 8:37:52 PM PDT by martin_fierro
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
The story was changed after a bit of a fuss with CAIR (yes, that group). Most of the work was done pre-9/11 as well. I liked the first two movies (Hunt for Red October and Patriot Games), but Clear and Present Danger was hacked to bits.

Of course, I may end up liking the movie a lot better. I didn't much care for the novel Sum of All Fears.

In any case, to expect a true rendition of a novel to a screenplay is often expecting too much. Lord of the Rings is possible, but not too many others will avoid changes, IMHO.

29 posted on 04/30/2002 8:44:13 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: TD911
Timeline, while interesting, was nothing but a screenplay. I felt like I was "reading" a movie the whole time.

Precisely. Like it was designed to be a Spielberg (sp?) movie--complete with built-in commercials (references to drinking brand-name softdrinks, etc.) Truly awful literature.

30 posted on 04/30/2002 8:44:15 PM PDT by Fifth Business
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
One detailed article on this mess has reported that the bad guys were nearly changed to American "right-wing militia" types!!!!(http://www.arabia.com/life/article/english/0,11827,39055,00.html )
31 posted on 04/30/2002 8:47:44 PM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis
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To: Fifth Business
Truly awful literature.

Truly awful literarure has traditionally made good material for cinema. Except that in the 1930s and 40s truly awful literature was still written as truly awful literature and not cynically as screen treatments which is what Crichton, Clancy and James Michener (now thankfully, not writing, or shall I say, typing anymore!) have been doing. Why, some great films have been made well into the 1970s from truly awful literature written in the 30s and 40s, but, interestingly enough, not more recently, when truly awful literature such as the Al and Tipper's Love Story was typed.

I suppose this may be because truly awful literature focuses on action and plot rather than on thought, motivation and other non-visual elements. Heck, porno literature would be just perfect (and some quasi porno has been turned into good cinema, as a matter of fact.)

But what's interesting to me is that in this we see literary trash turned into cinematic art. Go figure!

32 posted on 04/30/2002 8:58:36 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: brbethke
I agree 100%. Grisham is almost in that category of hackdom as well today.
33 posted on 04/30/2002 9:00:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: brbethke
I forget which writer from the 30s (Fitzgerald?) said to a younger author:

"when you sell a novel to Hollywood, get out at the California line, toss it over, turn around and don't look back."

(Paraphrased from memory.)

34 posted on 04/30/2002 9:05:19 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: SamAdams76
here is Jack Ryan putting in 100+ hour weeks with the CIA and his wife somehow manages to raise perfect children while working at John Hopkins as their top eye surgeon

For those of us raised on Robert A. Heinlein such characters are exactly who should populate novels.

As far as his writing skill is concerned, consider the huge volume of coherent sentences he produces [or used to produce] in a year. It's hard to argue with someone who can kill entire rainforests and cause printer's ink to be purchased by the trainload just by pushing a few keys on a typewriter or scribbling a little with a fountain-pen.

36 posted on 04/30/2002 9:15:19 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
Clancy has used platoons of gung ho wannab writer interns to crank out his pap for years, following in the profitable footsteps of Michener.
37 posted on 04/30/2002 9:23:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
So, did Clancy sell out, or sell the film rights without keeping a degree of creative control?

Sherry Lansing, the head of the studio that made this thing, was quoted not too long after 9/11 proudly saying that this change had been made, because, as we all know, Islam is a religion of peace!

This change is nothing though, compared to what they do to a more serious work. Allen Drury wrote Advise and Consent, which won the Pulitzer Prize, and was a conservative book about the workings of the Senate. It was made into a play on Broadway, and kept the conservative outlook. When Otto Preminger made a movie out of it, all the good guys became bad guys, all the motivations were changed, and it became a typical liberal movie. Preminger laughed about the way he had changed the meaning of the story. Drury had to take his check, and write a series of sequels, but swore he would never again sell a book to the movies.

38 posted on 04/30/2002 9:36:45 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Travis McGee
Aha! Another Michelangelo. Put the students to work.
39 posted on 04/30/2002 9:40:45 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: TD911
The ending of Lost World was like reading Hollywood action scenes. I liked his premise about the parentless dinosaurs growing up. I was sad to see that never made the movie, but then most movies are made for teenagers and they don't want to hear about the importance of parents.

I have no interest in seeing Sum of All Fears because of the PC crap about changing the terrorists. Islamic terrorist nuking things makes sense, Euronazis don't. I hope this movie loses boatloads of money.

40 posted on 04/30/2002 9:51:19 PM PDT by Birdwatcher
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