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How Big is Israel and How Much Land Do the Moslems Want?

Posted on 04/30/2002 5:20:57 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs

First, lets get things into porportion. The little yellow part there on this map is Israel. The shaded brown sections are Arab countries.  The other day I heard that the Moslems are the underdog in the region. You gotta be kidding.

What has Israel given back already? Israel gave the Sanai back to Egypt at the Camp David accords. The Sanai is the large tan colored area on the map below. You can see it was well over half of the entire country of Israel.

Now they are asking Israel to give up more. The Moslems now want the West Bank and Gaza. (They are the brown areas I framed below) This is nearly half of what the Jews had left after what they gave to Egypt

If Israel gave the West Bank and Gaza to the Muslims do you see how easy it would be for the Muslims to cut the country in two parts seperating northern Israel from the people in the south of Israel?

What do you mean they want even more? Yes, that's right they also want the Golan Heights. It's the area framed in red

Now lets block out what the Moslems have taken from Israel and what they are now asking for so we can see how much that is exactly

So there ya have it. Now you understand the problem. It's not as complicated as they say it is really. Would it be hard if this was a problem in the U.S.A.? What would that look like?

The Moslems have more tanks, aircraft, and more armed forces then Israel. Look at these stats below. Who's the underdog again?



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To: Brett66
400 nukes or more is right!
21 posted on 04/30/2002 5:42:15 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; vanman
Nice Post - Israel-don't give up any more land! It's time one of those "brown" countries give a little land...
22 posted on 04/30/2002 5:42:22 PM PDT by Chili Girl
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To: donntonn2
Since the Jews have no right to anything I guess the Islamists can take it all back. Oh wait, they tried that already and Israel opened a can of whoop-ass on them. Guess they'll just have to deal with it.
23 posted on 04/30/2002 5:42:44 PM PDT by Brett66
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To: dennisw
Me?

Me "like" Israel?

I like some Israelis, don't like others. Neutral on the country. Prefer, much prefer, to deal with individuals and not states,

Same as me with any other group.

24 posted on 04/30/2002 5:44:14 PM PDT by AzJP
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To: donntonn2
You must be today's 'suicide poster'. KABOOM!
25 posted on 04/30/2002 5:44:28 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: donntonn2
Good Idea . First , the Jews have absolutely no right , under ANY International law , to have ANY land in PALESTINE .

Stop it, you're killing me. You should go into stand up. Tell me another one. Clinton was the greatest president ever, right?

26 posted on 04/30/2002 5:45:40 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
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To: donntonn2
I agree with you here . These are NOT Arab countries , they are Muslim countries

Arab terrorist lovers, Muslim terrorist lovers. No big diff. Welcome to FR, Pali lover.

27 posted on 04/30/2002 5:47:39 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

How much of the West Bank did Israel offer the Palestinians? 

MAY 2000 PROPOSAL (before intifada)

 

 

DECEMBER 2000 PROPOSALS (four months into the intifada)

Projections of the Israeli offer in December 2000, and the December 2000 Bridging Proposal of US President Clinton

 

US Bridging Proposal

Israeli Proposal

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A map showing the projection of the bridging proposals of U.S. President William J. Clinton, December, 2000. Dark Gray areas are currently Areas A and B of Palestinian control. Light Gray areas would become part of the Palestinian state. Gray-striped areas would become part of the Palestinian state after an interim period.  Maps are adapted from . A map showing the projection of the Israeli proposals of the government of PM Barak, December, 2000. Dark Gray areas are currently Areas A and B of Palestinian control. Light Gray areas would become part of the Palestinian state. Gray-striped areas would become part of the Palestinian state after an interim period.  Maps are adapted from .

 

 

 

FINAL JANUARY 2001 PROPOSAL

 

 

 

 



28 posted on 04/30/2002 5:48:12 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Very well done. Land for peace should be dead as far as Israel is concerned, now and forever more.

Israel should offer your presentation every time a Palestinian state is mentioned, along with questioning the sanity of the U.N., and the International Community, to even think of creating a terrorist state.

Arafat toss'ed the best Israel could do back at them, they should tell the world, given the Palestinian reaction to the best deal they will ever offer, they will never offer it again and have decided against the wisdom of a Palestinian state.

30 posted on 04/30/2002 5:52:41 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: donntonn2
I hae looked through all my reference books and I cannot find any reference to a country called PALISTINE. Can you tell me where it is located and what form of government they have and what is the capitol. Also can you tell me their GNP and major export product oh and what is their national currency. Also, can you tell me where I can find one of their embassies. Thanks.
33 posted on 04/30/2002 5:57:16 PM PDT by gunshy
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To: donntonn2
If A bunch of folks (say Chicoms ) you have never seen before came to your part of the U.S. , and started attacking the locals and driving them off their land , and then giving that land to Chicom "settlers" , do you think you would fight back ?????

Let's say a bunch of idiots (say donntonn2)came to FR and tried to drive off the regular posters with their idiotic drivel. What would I do???

I'm just wondering, in the Bible it mentions Jews living in Israel but it doesn't mention any Palestinians. Do you have any historical sources for your claim that the Palestinians lived there?

34 posted on 04/30/2002 6:03:46 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
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To: donntonn2
Tell me... who was the leader of Palestine before Arafat? I've always known of it as a region in that area. In the US of A we have regions... like the West, South, Northeast, Southwest and Midwest. None of these are countries and never have been. Has Arafat ever explained this?
35 posted on 04/30/2002 6:04:29 PM PDT by cibco
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To: donntonn2
You seem to miss the point completely here . The Israelis have NO right to be in Palestine AT ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your assertion is not fact or reality. Go back to the 3rd world Muslim ****hole where your heart is! Go kiss your sister in her burqa
37 posted on 04/30/2002 6:09:40 PM PDT by dennisw
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donntonn2 member since April 30th, 2002
 

Wimp.

38 posted on 04/30/2002 6:10:09 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: donntonn2
the area was officially known as "The Palestinian Mandate" and was intended to become a full-fledged State

Yeah, all they had to do was sign on the dotted line and live in peace with Israel.

Too bad, couldn't even do that.

Losers.

39 posted on 04/30/2002 6:11:19 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
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To: donntonn2
For the past 50 Years , they have been persitently STEALING land from the Arabs who lived there for almost 2000 years .

Wow, what's in that goat milk that they live for 2000 years in Palestine? So, are they Palestinians or Arabs? Make up your (tiny) mind.

40 posted on 04/30/2002 6:13:29 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
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