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Either President Bush can't make up his mind, or he is running one of the most devilishly clever Middle East policy acts since Richard Nixon last dined with Henry Kissinger.

I probably side with the latter, but this pretty much sums up GWBs performance from a political perspective.

1 posted on 04/30/2002 7:13:24 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
I probably side with the latter

I do as well, however, I'm sure this post will bring in the foreign policy know-it-alls, who happen to sit in on EVERY White House meeting and know for a fact what this administration is trying to accomplish.

The I don't care what you say crowd, will enlighten us with the REAL intent of Bush, and it will not be to their liking. The Reagan-bots will savage Bush, all the while conveniently forgetting their hero's 11th commandment.

2 posted on 04/30/2002 7:21:07 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: SJackson
If Saddam is history and there have been no more 911's by this time next year, we will know the answer to the question.
3 posted on 04/30/2002 7:21:29 AM PDT by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: SJackson
Can anyone explain why would Saddam Hussein be a greater threat to us than, let's say China. Or North Korea? Or even Russia? Or Pakistan? Or Iran?

It would only take a little coup in Pakistan and we would instantly get a nuclear-armed enemy. What are we going to do then? What if the coup happens while we have 100,000 troops at Kuwait's border with Iraq? What if the Chinese suddenly decide they don't like us no more?

Please note that there's very little that Iraq or Saddam could do to us. Most of the others I mentioned above could do us A LOT of harm.

Could it be that what distinguishes Iraq from the other 'suspects' is its being Israel's most powerful/dangerous enemy in the region?

4 posted on 04/30/2002 7:21:39 AM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: SJackson
I also side with the latter...
Rope a Dope 101
5 posted on 04/30/2002 7:22:54 AM PDT by evad
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To: SJackson
The WSJ is being too nice to Bush. The truth is he caved in to Abdullah and his daddy's failed advisors are now running the show. These are the same idiots who botched the Gulf War.
7 posted on 04/30/2002 7:34:18 AM PDT by LarryM
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To: SJackson
and there's no reason to believe he'll take this ultimatum any more seriously than the others.

Arafat obviously hasn't studied President Bush too closely, or he'd know not to mess with Texas.

I'd HATE to be on the wrong side of this President!

8 posted on 04/30/2002 7:35:05 AM PDT by mombonn
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To: SJackson
I side with the latter and this is my reasoning.

You could only pull it off if you are willing to take "heat" and let your methodology be dragged through the mud by the media. Basically willing to take the "dumb and incompetent" label that has been applied to him so often, only to be proven wrong when things worked out.

To pull off the latter, you'd have to have very little ego involved in decision making.

I think Bush has demonstrated in the past that he doesn't let his ego or the need for positive press get in his way.

9 posted on 04/30/2002 7:35:41 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: SJackson; JohnHuang2
What we are seeing is a delicate strategery being played out by W. He is willing to take whatever hits come his way to get the job done. It sure is interesting to watch...

John, fyi...

10 posted on 04/30/2002 7:35:49 AM PDT by eureka!
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To: SJackson
The REAL Texas two-step ...

RPTR1: Governor, what do you think of the crisis in the Middle East?
GOV: I was saying, just this morning at the weekly prayer breakfast in this historic capital, that it behooves both the Jews and the Arabs to settle their differences in a Christian manner.

Fellow Texans, I am proudly standing here to humbly say,
I assure you .. and I mean it ..
Now who says I don’t speak out as plain as day;
And, fellow Texans, I’m for progress and the flag, long may it fly.
I’m a poor boy, come to greatness, so it follows that I cannot tell a lie.

RPTR2: What the hell did he say?
RPTR1: Same as usual … not a damn thing.

Oooh, I love to dance a little sidestep,
Now they see me, now they don’t, I’ve come and gone.
Oooh, I love to sweep around the wide step,
Cut a little swath and lead the people on.

Now, my good friends, it behooves me to be solemn and declare,
I’m for goodness, and for profit,
And for living clean and saying daily prayers;
And, now, my good friends, you can sleep nights, I’ll continue to stand tall.
You can trust me, for I promise, I shall keep a watchful eye upon y’all.

RPTR1: Did you get any of that?
RPTR2: I hear him talking, but he don’t come in.

Oooh, I love to dance a little sidestep,
Now they see me, now they don’t, I’ve come and gone.
And, oooh, I love to sweep around the wide step,
Cut a little swath and lead the people on.

Melvin P. Thorpe: Governor, why has the Chicken Ranch operation been so long ignored?
GOV: We should be having some acoustic problems in here.
MPT: Aren’t you afraid of possible pay-offs and bribes?
GOV: Melvin, I’m proud of you.
MPT: Enough of this pussy-footin’ governor, what do you intend to do about Miss Mona and the Chicken Ranch?

Now, Miss Mona, I don’t know her, though I’ve heard the name, oh, yes.
But, of course, I’ve no close contact,
So what she is doing, I can only guess.
And, now, Miss Mona, she’s a blemish on the face of that good town.
I am taking certain steps here,
Someone somewhere’s gonna have to close her down.

RPTR2: Do you have any idea what means?
RPTR1: Is that a “yes” or “no”?
RPTR3: It’s a possible “maybe”.

Oooh, I love to dance a little sidestep,
Now they see me, now they don’t, I’ve come and gone.
And, oooh, I love to sweep around the wide step,
Cut a little cloth and lead the people on.

14 posted on 04/30/2002 8:00:48 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: SJackson
Actually, I think Bush's Machiavellian brilliance may be even deeper than suspected. By okaying the Sharon invasion of the West Bank, which has brought Jewish liberals into lockstep with Christian advocates of war on the general muslim world, he has effectively silenced the only contemplated resistance to a wider campaign against Iraq - and now Iran.

Although an avoided future is hard to see, what Bush may have been worried about is the typical resistance from the Left of any type of war anywhere, for whatever reason. A powerful element of the American Left are (were?) American Jews. But when it comes to the issue of Israel, the "Bella Abzug Syndrome" applies. Bella Abzug, a New York liberal jewish congresswoman, was accused by the GOP many years ago of voting to transfer to Israel all kinds of weapons that she voted against building in the first place.

Now that Bush has supported Israel in its war on the Palestinian people, it would hardly be reasonable for this powerful lobby to begrudge this American President a military campaign against Iraq and Iran, conducted for American interests.....would it?

15 posted on 04/30/2002 8:03:14 AM PDT by guitfiddlist
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To: SJackson
one of the most devilishly clever Middle East policy acts since Richard Nixon last dined with Henry Kissinger.

Two overated clods on foreign affairs
Creators of DETENTE and opening CHICOM up to trade
17 posted on 04/30/2002 8:46:21 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: SJackson
The ARABS hate us for siding with Israel, so even if we don't, The ARABS are not going to be appeased or let us use their bases--they all got together and said an attack on Iraq was an attack on them all.

The Saudis continue to be the country that may well be the worst for facilitating terrorism, yet we are being dictated the terms of our relationship, when we should be saying, shape up, or we won't buy your oil.

And the principles set forth are being applied hypocritically, instead of being against the terrorists--now there are good terrorists and bad ones. And the states who harbor them, and fund them, can do so without fear of reprisal

I don't think this is clever at all. At best its manipulation that won't work (didn't we all get tired of that over the last 8 years?) and at worst its waffling incompentence.

Bush is still better than ANY demoRat. But a great president, he certainly is not.

21 posted on 04/30/2002 9:15:39 AM PDT by liberalism=failure
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President Bush is also taking a risk with his pledge to allow U.S. and British "wardens" to serve as monitors in the region. Mr. Arafat has always wanted foreign observers as a way to neutralize Israeli defense forces from striking back after terrorist attacks against Israelis. We also hope this isn't a setup for another Beirut Marine barracks disaster.

This is my concern also. All we need is for American and British servicemen to be used as hostages or in other ways be set up to constrain the Israelis.

I have also been perplexed at what Bush is up to. This may well be a very clever two step. If so, this is genius diplomacy.

I doubt that the Israeli/Palestinian conflict will be settled by outside diplomacy. It will happen only when a new leadership arises from the Palestinians.

Real success for Bush's foreign policy will be marked by regime changes in Iran and Iraq.

And then the Iraqis and the Iranians can split Saudi Arabia between them and return Mecca and Medina to the control of the Hashemites in Jordan.

22 posted on 04/30/2002 9:43:05 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: SJackson
Either President Bush can't make up his mind, or he is running one of the most devilishly clever Middle East policy acts since Richard Nixon last dined with Henry Kissinger.

I submit that it is the Press and Pundants that can't make up their minds.

26 posted on 04/30/2002 11:30:39 AM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: SJackson
The US should never send troops there again to guard peace. They are only going to be shot at/bombed by the islamic brigades.
27 posted on 04/30/2002 3:02:04 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: SJackson
"I probably side with the latter...."

I want to believe....

29 posted on 04/30/2002 4:31:43 PM PDT by onedoug
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