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Chilling Christian expression
WorldNetDaily ^ | April 30, 2002 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 04/29/2002 10:09:02 PM PDT by drstevej

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To: weikel
Agreed.
21 posted on 04/29/2002 11:16:28 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
I presumed that was your meaning.

Got any idea of how much God you find in physics in each period?

Is the curve subject to extrapolation?

When God=0 on the curve, what would you suggest He do? Apologize? Hide?

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“In the absence of any other proof, the thumb alone would convince me of God’s existence.” – Isaac Newton

22 posted on 04/29/2002 11:18:29 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej; JHavard; Havoc; OldReggie; Iowegian; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain;TrueBeliever9...
A BTTT for ya brother
23 posted on 04/29/2002 11:19:28 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: drstevej
 
When God=0 on the curve, what would you suggest He do? Apologize? Hide?

    What did the Tooth Fairy do when you found out the truth?

     It's bedtime for this bonzo.  Goodnite, folx.

24 posted on 04/29/2002 11:21:36 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
A big THUMBS UP to you, gcruse.

Don't forget to say your prayers. :))

25 posted on 04/29/2002 11:23:13 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej
I'm sure Newton realized that existence must have a cause which he would call God( Newton's religious life was interesting... he was obsessed with the occult studied nature as a way of reaching God, interested in Alchemy big time).
26 posted on 04/29/2002 11:25:20 PM PDT by weikel
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To: weikel
The significance of the quote is Newton's recognition of intellegent design. More than a uncaused cause, an intellegent designer.
27 posted on 04/29/2002 11:29:41 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej, Rnmomof7
“In the absence of any other proof, the thumb alone would convince me of God’s existence.” – Isaac Newton

Amen! By the way Delay is my congressman!

The fool hath said in his heart there is not God'(Ps.14:1)

28 posted on 04/29/2002 11:29:52 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: drstevej
Take, for instance, a recent New York Times story about a speech by President Bush on his faith-based initiative. The Times didn't criticize or quote others criticizing the president's program, about which I have my own reservations, but questioned certain statements in his speech involving "religious ideas."

The NY Slimes doesn't want to close the door on the possibility of having Jihad-based camps funded with taxpayer money. Hence, their reticence in denouncing gov't funded "faith-based" Programs. Very simply, the New York Times will promote any avenue to tyrrany.

29 posted on 04/29/2002 11:30:23 PM PDT by Concentrate
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To: fortheDeclaration
And a "thumbs up" to you too ftD!
30 posted on 04/29/2002 11:31:16 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej
Newton probably did believe this( Newton's primary field of interest was actually alchemy and the occult) but it doesn't follow explicity from the neccesity of an uncaused cause of existence.
31 posted on 04/29/2002 11:38:36 PM PDT by weikel
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To: weikel
I take the Voegelinian view. Neither one knows or is better than the other:

In California now there is a fight between literalists or providentialists, and biological theorists.  And you get in the textbooks both Genesis and Darwinian evolutionism as two "theories" of evolution.  You see what that really means?  The fundamentalist theologians in California (fundamentalism was well established there at the beginning of the century) don't know what a myth is.   They believe it is a theory.   They're in ignorance.

And the biological theorists don't know that Kant has analysed why one cannot have an immanentist theory of evolution.  One can have empirical observation but no general theory of evolution because the sequence of forms is a mystery;  it just is there and you cannot explain it by any theory.   The world cannot be explained.  It is a mythical problem, so you have a strong element of myth in the theory of evolution.

So both the theoretical evolutionists and the fundamentalist theologians are illiterate.   That level of illiteracy is taught in the text books as "two theories", neither one of which is a theory.


32 posted on 04/29/2002 11:53:31 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: betty_boop
Voegelin bump ... regards.
33 posted on 04/30/2002 12:04:18 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: weikel
They are supplementary arguments.
34 posted on 04/30/2002 12:05:11 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: LarryLied
Is not Darwinian evolution a faith position as well?

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"evolution, akin to religion, involves making certain a priori or metaphysical assumptions, which at some level cannot be proven empirically." -- Dr Michael Ruse

35 posted on 04/30/2002 12:14:40 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: LarryLied
Yep, ya gotta love guys that write nonsense crap like this, -- and those that pretend to understand it:

Ideologies, whether Positivist, or Marxist, or National Socialist, indulge in constructions that are intellectually not tenable. That raises the question of why people who otherwise are not quite stupid, and who have the secondary virtues of being quite honest in their daily affairs, indulge in intellectual dishonesty as soon as they touch science.
That ideology is a phenomenon of intellectual dishonesty is beyond a doubt, because the various ideologies after all have been submitted to criticism, and anybody who is willing to read the literature knows that they are not tenable, and why. If one adheres to them nevertheless, the prima facie assumption must be that he is intellectually dishonest.
The overt phenomenon of intellectual dishonesty then raises the question of why a man will indulge in it. That is a general problem that in my later years required complicated research to ascertain the nature, causes, and persistence of states of alienation.

---- Whatta buncha bull.

36 posted on 04/30/2002 12:22:59 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: weikel
.....I don't understand it completely so God did it.

Or, put another way, to not believe that God created Creation, you have to believe that something came from nothing.

37 posted on 04/30/2002 12:23:12 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: tpaine
Voegelin is far from crap. Ideologues don't like him because he punctures what he refers to as their gnostic religions, be they Puritainism, Marxism, Liberalism or Postivism.
38 posted on 04/30/2002 12:32:00 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: ppaul
Read my other post I do believe in an eternal uncaused cause of existence itself and perhaps matter and energy in the Universe but I doubt God personally intervened to create humans.
39 posted on 04/30/2002 12:33:40 AM PDT by weikel
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To: tpaine
Yep, ya gotta love guys that write nonsense crap like this, -- and those that pretend to understand it:

Beats trying to figure out how big-L libertarians could possibly really believe in such things as "women's rights" --or-- each person's "right" to believe what they will about when a human life really begins --or-- how everyone's got a "right" to require that Religion, if not Pornography, be practiced strictly in private. That's the stuff that'll give you a headache.

How's tricks in Somalia's libertopia these days?

40 posted on 04/30/2002 12:39:28 AM PDT by Askel5
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