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Was Lincoln a Tyrant?
LewRockwell.com ^ | April 29, 2002 | Thomas DiLorenzo

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Was Lincoln a Tyrant?

by Thomas J. DiLorenzo

In a recent WorldNetDaily article, “Examining ‘Evidence’ of Lincoln’s Tyranny (April 23),” David Quackenbush accuses me of misreading several statements by the prominent historians Roy Basler and Mark Neely in my book, The Real Lincoln:  A New Look at Abraham Lincoln, His Agenda, and an Unnecessary War With regard to Basler, I quote him in Abraham Lincoln:  His Speeches and Writings, as suggesting that on the issue of slavery, post 1854, Lincoln’s  “words lacked effectiveness.”  Quackenbush says he was not referring to Lincoln’s comments on slavery here, but other things.   I read him differently. What Basler said was that, yes, Lincoln used eloquent language with regard to human equality and “respecting the Negro as a human being,” but he offered no concrete proposals other than the odious colonization idea of his political idol, Henry Clay.  As Basler wrote, “The truth is that Lincoln had no solution to the problem of slavery [as of 1857] except the colonization idea which he inherited from Henry Clay.”  In the next sentence he mentions Lincoln’s eloquent natural rights language, then in the next sentence after that, he makes the “lacking in effectiveness” comment.  What I believe Basler is saying here is that because Lincoln’s actions did not match his impressive rhetoric, his words did indeed lack effectiveness. 

As Robert Johannsen, author of Lincoln, the South, and Slavery put it, Lincoln’s position on slavery was identical to Clay’s:  “opposition to slavery in principle, toleration of it in practice, and a vigorous hostility toward the abolition movement” (emphasis added).   Regardless of what Basler said, I take the position that Lincoln’s sincerity can certainly be questioned in this regard.  His words did lack effectiveness on the issue of slavery because he contradicted himself so often.  Indeed, one of his most famous defenders, Harry Jaffa, has long maintained that Honest Abe was a prolific liar when he was making numerous racist and white supremacist remarks.   He was lying, says Jaffa, just to get himself elected.   In The Lincoln Enigma Gabor Boritt even goes so far in defending Lincoln’s deportation/colonization proposals to say, “This is how honest people lie.”  Well, not exactly.  Truly honest people do not lie. 

The problem with this argument, Joe Sobran has pointed out, is that Lincoln made these kinds of ugly comments even when he was not running for political office.  He did this, I believe, because he believed in these things.

Basler was certainly aware of Lincoln’s voluminous statements in opposition to racial equality.  He denounced “equality between the white and black races” in his August 21, 1858 debate with Stephen Douglas; stated in his 1852 eulogy to Henry Clay that as monstrous as slavery was, eliminating it would supposedly produce “a greater evil, even to the cause of human liberty itself;” and in his February 27, 1860 Cooper Union speech advocated deporting black people so that “their places be . . . filled up by free white laborers.”  In fact, Lincoln clung to the colonization/deportation idea for the rest of his life.  There are many other similar statements.   Thus, it is not at all a stretch to conclude that Basler’s comment that Lincoln’s words “lacked effectiveness” could be interpreted as that he was insincere.  It also seems to me that Johannsen is right when he further states that “Nearly all of [Lincoln’s] public statements on the slavery question prior to his election as president were delivered with political intent and for political effect.”  As David Donald wrote of Lincoln in Lincoln Reconsidered, “politics was his life.”  In my book I do not rely on Basler alone, but any means, to make my point that Lincoln’s devotion to racial equality was dubious, at best.

Quackenbush apparently believes it is a sign of sincerity for Lincoln to have denounced slavery in one sentence, and then in the next sentence to denounce the abolition of slavery as being even more harmful to human liberty.  (I apparently misread the statement Lincoln once made about “Siamese twins” by relying on a secondary source that got it wrong and will change it if there is a third printing).

Quackenbush takes much out of context and relies exclusively on Lincoln’s own arguments in order to paint as bleak a picture of my book as possible.  For example, in my book I quote Mark Neely as saying that Lincoln exhibited a “gruff and belittling impatience” over constitutional arguments that had stood in the way of his cherished mercantilist economic agenda (protectionist tariffs, corporate welfare, and a federal monopolization of the money supply) for decades.  Quackenbush takes me to task for allegedly implying that Neely wrote that Lincoln opposed the Constitution and not just constitutional arguments. But I argue at great length in the book that Lincoln did resent the Constitution as well as the constitutional arguments that were made by myriad American statesmen, beginning with Jefferson.  In fact, this quotation of Neely comes at the end of the chapter entitled “Was Lincoln a Dictator,” in which I recount the trashing of the Constitution by Lincoln as discussed in such books as James Randall’s Constitutional Problems Under Lincoln, Dean Sprague’s Freedom Under Lincoln, and Neely’s Fate of Liberty Lincoln’s behavior, more than his political speeches, demonstrated that he had little regard for the Constitution when it stood in the way of his political ambitions.

One difference between how I present this material and how these others authors present it is that I do not spend most of my time making excuses and bending over backwards to concoct “rationales” for Lincoln’s behavior.  I just present the material.  The back cover of Neely’s book, for example, states that thanks to the book, “Lincoln emerges . . . with his legendary statesmanship intact.”  Neely won a Pulitzer Prize for supposedly pulling Lincoln’s fanny out of the fire with regard to his demolition of civil liberties in the North during the war.

Quackenbush dismisses the historical, constitutional arguments opposed to Lincoln’s mercantilist economic agenda, as Lincoln himself sometimes did,  as “partisan zealotry.”  Earlier in the book I quote James Madison, the father of the Constitution, as vetoing an “internal improvements” bill sponsored by Henry Clay on the grounds that “it does not appear that the power proposed to be exercised in the bill is among the enumerated powers” of the Constitution.  Thomas Jefferson, James Monroe, Andrew Jackson, and John Tyler made similar statements.  These were more than partisan arguments by political hacks and zealots.  The father of the Constitution himself, Madison, believed the corporate welfare subsidies that  Lincoln would later champion were unconstitutional. 

Add to this Lincoln’s extraordinary disregard for the Constitution during his entire administration, and it seems absurd for Quackenbush or anyone else to portray him as a champion of the Constitution who was pestered by “political zealots.”  Among Lincoln’s unconstitutional acts were launching an invasion without the consent of Congress, blockading Southern ports before formally declaring war, unilaterally suspending the writ of habeas corpus and arresting and imprisoning thousands of Northern citizens without a warrant, censoring telegraph communications, confiscating private property, including firearms, and effectively gutting the Ninth and Tenth Amendments. 

Even quite worshipful Lincoln biographers and historians called him a “dictator.”  In his book, Constitutional Dictatorship, Clinton Rossiter devoted an entire chapter to Lincoln and calls him a “great dictator” and a “true democrat,” two phrases that are not normally associated with each other.  “Lincoln’s amazing disregard for the . . . Constitution was considered by nobody as legal,” said Rossiter.  Yet Quackenbush throws a fit because I dare to question Lincoln’s devotion to constitutional liberty.

Quackenbush continues to take my statements out of context when commenting on the Lincoln-Douglas debates, and he refuses to admit that Lincoln did in fact lament the demise of the Bank of the United Stated during the debates.  His earlier claim that there was not a single word said during the Lincoln-Douglas debates about economic policy is simply untrue. 

But the larger context is that even though most of the discussion during the debates centered on such issues as the extension of slavery into the new territories, they were really a manifestation of the old debate between the advocates of centralized government (Hamilton, Clay, Webster, Lincoln) and of decentralized government and states’ rights (Jefferson, Jackson, Tyler, Calhoun, Douglas).  At the time of the debates Lincoln had spent about a quarter of a century laboring in the trenches of the Whig and Republican Parties, primarily on behalf of the so-called “American System” of protectionist tariffs, tax subsidies to corporations, and centralized banking.  When the Whig Party collapsed Lincoln assured Illinois voters that there was no essential difference between he two parties.  This is what he and the Whigs and Republicans wanted a centralized government for.  As Basler said, at the time he had no concrete solution to the slavery issue other than to propose sending black people back to Africa, Haiti, or Central America.  He did, however, have a long record of advocating the programs of the “American System” and implementing a financially disastrous $10 million “internal improvements” boondoggle in Illinois in the late 1830s when he was an influential member of  the state legislature. 

Lincoln spent his 25-year off-and-on political career prior to 1857 championing the Whig project of centralized government that would engage in a kind of economic central planning.  When the extension of slavery became the overriding issue of the day he continued to hold the centralizer’s position.  And as soon as he took office, he and the Republican party enacted what James McPherson called a “blizzard of legislation” that finally achieved the “American System,” complete with federal railroad subsidies, a tripling of the average tariff rate that would remain that high or higher long after the war ended, and centralized banking with the National Currency and Legal Tender Acts.  It is in this sense that the Lincoln-Douglas debates really did have important economic ramifications. 

Quackenbush complains that I do not quote Lincoln enough.  He falsely states that there’s only one Lincoln quote in the entire book, which is simply bizarre.  On page 85 alone I quote Lincoln the secessionist, speaking on January 12, 1848 (“The War with Mexico:  Speech in the United States House of Representatives”):  “Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better.  This is a most valuable, a most sacred right --a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world.  Nor is the right confined to cases I which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it.  Any portion of such people, that can, may revolutionize, and make their own of so much of the territory as they inhabit.”  That’s four sentences, by my count, and there are plenty of other Lincoln quotes in my book, contrary to Quackenbush’s kooky assertion.

But he has a point:  I chose to focus in my book more on Lincoln’s actions than his words.  After all, even Bill Clinton would look like a brilliant statesman if he were judged exclusively by his pleasant-sounding speeches, many of which were written by the likes of James Carville and Paul Begala.  Yet, this is how many Lincoln scholars seem to do their work, even writing entire books around single short speeches while ignoring much of Lincoln’s actual behavior and policies.

I also stand by my argument that Lincoln was essentially the anti-Jefferson in many ways, including his repudiation of the principle in the Declaration of Independence that governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed.  I don’t see how this can even be debatable.  The Whigs were always the anti-Jeffersonians who battled with the political heirs of Jefferson, such as Andrew Jackson and John Tyler.  Lincoln was solidly in this tradition, even though he often quoted Jefferson for political effect.  He also quoted Scripture a lot even though, as Joe Sobran has pointed out, he never could bring himself to become a believer.

In this regard I believe the Gettysburg Address was mostly sophistry.  As H.L. Mencken once wrote, “it is poetry, not logic; beauty, not sense.”   It was the Union soldiers in the battle, he wrote, who “actually fought against self determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of their people to govern themselves.”  Regardless of what one believes was the main cause of the war, it is indeed true that the Confederates no longer consented to being governed by Washington, D.C. and Lincoln waged a war to deny them that right.

It’s interesting that even though the title of Quackenbush’s article had to do with “Evidence of Lincoln’s Tyranny,” in fourteen pages he does not say a single word about the voluminous evidence that I do present, based on widely-published and easily-accessible materials, of Lincoln’s tyrannical behavior in trashing the Constitution and waging war on civilians in violation of international law and codes of morality.  Instead, he focuses on accusations of misplaced quotation marks, footnotes out of order, or misinterpretations of a few quotations. 

April 27, 2002

Thomas J. DiLorenzo [send him mail] is the author of the LRC #1 bestseller, The Real Lincoln: A New Look at Abraham Lincoln, His Agenda, and an Unnecessary War (Forum/Random House 2002) and professor of economics at Loyola College in Maryland.

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Comment #181 Removed by Moderator

To: x
Many thanks.

What an ironic tragedy the war was. Industrialist versus Agrarian, Hamilton's urban mercantilist legacy versus Jefferson's gentlemen farmers, free-traders versus protectionists, statist's versus confederates, all destined to kill each other by the hundreds of thousands because of the economic, political, and cultural divisions created by an antiquated, immoral idea of property rights?

What a shame the Southern reform experiment was snuffed out in it's crib. The two systems would have evolved, shared, competed, and prospered from the march of the technological revolution with far more benefit to future world history, but for a farsighted, super-intelligent, ambitious corporate lawyer, who remolded the working thesis of continental government and of warfare.

Many thanks, again.

182 posted on 04/30/2002 9:16:02 PM PDT by muleboy
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To: ConfederateMissouri;JimRob
By the way, here is my favorite quote once again:

"Within twenty years we can peacefully colonize the negro and give him our language, literature, religion, and system of government under conditions in which he can rise to the full measure of manhood. This he can never do here. We can never attain the ideal union our fathers dreamed of, with millions of an alien, inferior race among us, whose assimilation is neither possible nor desirable."

-- A. Lincoln, in an address given in Washington D.C. (found in in Basler, Collected Works, Volume V, pages 371-375)

177 posted on 4/30/02 7:42 PM Pacific by ConfederateMissouri

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Let me tell you again, this quote is bogus.

Here is what 4ConservativeJustices says about it on another thread.

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To: rdf

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Regarding the other quotes attributed to Lincoln on 14 Aug 1862 (and cited in Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln (by Basler, ed., Vol. V, pp. 371-375), I can assure you that they are not on those pages - and nowhere in the entire collection can I find those remarks. That being the case, I apologize for relying on misinformation and attributing those remarks incorrectly to Lincoln, and withdraw them from consideration.

What is contained on page 370-375 is the "Address on Colonization to a Deputation of Negroes " posted previously.

[snip] FReegards,

4CJ

291 posted on 4/26/02 9:53 AM Pacific by 4ConservativeJustices
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Really, you do harm to yourself and to your cause by using it. As 4CJ pointed out to me, this "quote" is from the novel, "The Clansman." I can give you the link, and I can also link you to Basler, where you can see for yourself that Lincoln did not say these words on pp 371-375. There is a fine search engine there, and you can also see that Lincoln nowhere said it.

I hope you will have the decency to follow the example of 4CJ, and both apologize and never use this fraud again.

Regards,

Richard F.

183 posted on 04/30/2002 10:22:32 PM PDT by rdf
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
I should have pinged you on this one.

I hope my reply meets with your approval.

Regards,

Richard F.

185 posted on 04/30/2002 10:52:09 PM PDT by rdf
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To: rdf
bump
186 posted on 04/30/2002 11:07:24 PM PDT by Soul Citizen
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To: Soul Citizen
Thanks, I'm going to bed,

Richard F.

187 posted on 04/30/2002 11:09:42 PM PDT by rdf
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To: davidjquackenbush
Quackenbush ... refuses to admit that Lincoln did in fact lament the demise of the Bank of the United Stated during the debates. His earlier claim that there was not a single word said during the Lincoln-Douglas debates about economic policy is simply untrue.

This is one of the few points on which I agree with DiLorenzo. Based on my quick word search of the debates, it appears that Lincoln did very briefly mention his belief that a national bank was Constitutional on several occasions, so McPherson overstated the single-issue nature of the debates somewhat. Of course, Lincoln's comments about the Constitutionality of a national bank severely undercuts DiLorenzo's attempt to paint Lincoln as anti-Constitutional.

Also, let us not forget that slavery was certainly an economic as well as a moral issue, what with the Confederates putting a value on their cherished institution of at least $3 billion at a time when the annual federal budget was only $63 million.

Thanks for all your efforts in pointing out DiLorenzo's atrocious scholarly deficiencies.

188 posted on 05/01/2002 2:43:05 AM PDT by ravinson
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To: Mortin Sult
There you are again under yet another screen name. How many does this make? While you're making reference to the "hundreds of known murderers" arrested by military authorities under the Grand Sot's orders, tell us also how many convictions resulted from those mass arrests.

BTW, what was wrong with your "Who is George Salt" screen name? Too many posts linking to communist websites under that nick?

189 posted on 05/01/2002 3:09:12 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: ConfederateMissouri
You rely on a well known socialist such as Sandburg?...Those on here, quackencracker, mayberry rdf, WhiskeytoomuchPapa and the few others defend Lincoln using socialist writers.

You seem to be implying that Carl Sandburg is not a valid Lincoln historian because he was a (democratic) socialist who presumably admired Lincoln, believing him to be a fellow socialist. If that is the case, it should be a simple matter for you to find Sandburg quotes which admiringly suggest that Lincoln was a socialist. Where are they?

190 posted on 05/01/2002 3:27:23 AM PDT by ravinson
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To: shuckmaster
The moderator nuked a poster who pinged me to the thread, apparently. He must have been making some wannabe scholars here look like what they are and one of them ran boohooing to the teacher to expel him.

I wonder how rdf and davidquackenbush can pass themselves off as academics when neither has ever published anything and neither is employed in academia. Accusing a professor of fraud while pretending to be his among his peers is fraud in and of itself. Of course, they are free to lie and slander here. They will never do much offline where the actual work of academia takes place.

191 posted on 05/01/2002 3:27:47 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: VinnyTex
...if you go back and read what Jefferson and Madison said about the tariff issue when the Nationalist Republicans started to gain influence in the party, they always feared it would concentrate power in the central government.

If you go back and read what Tocqueville wrote in the 1830's, you will see that he predicted that (a) the U.S. Constitution would lead to a concentration of power, and (b) slavery was the thing which would be most likely to cause an American civil war. Blaming tariffs for big government is like blaming a cheeseburger for a heart attack.

192 posted on 05/01/2002 3:42:43 AM PDT by ravinson
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To: rdf
I hope you will have the decency to follow the example of 4CJ, and both apologize and never use this fraud again.

Never happen, for the simple reason that 4ConservativeJustices is a class act, while ConfederateMissouri is just an act.

193 posted on 05/01/2002 3:42:56 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Mortin Sult
'Birth of a Nation' was based entirely on Thomas Dixon, Jr's excellent & highly recommended "The Trilogy of Reconstruction".
You're not another one of those falsely claiming to be a scholar here are you?
194 posted on 05/01/2002 4:06:35 AM PDT by shuckmaster
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To: muleboy
What a shame the Southern reform experiment was snuffed out in it's crib.

How long were you willing to let Southerners "experiment" with slavery? Would you be willing to volunteer for an "experiment" where you're the one wearing leg irons and having a horse whip cracked across your back?

195 posted on 05/01/2002 4:13:01 AM PDT by ravinson
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To: shuckmaster
Thomas Dixon? Sheesh, and you guys have the nerve to call Lincoln racist.
196 posted on 05/01/2002 4:14:59 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

B.S.

You all can't bear to hear the truth about Lincoln because it proves the Yankee's culpability for an unjust war of aggression.

197 posted on 05/01/2002 5:50:33 AM PDT by Colt .45
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To: Colt .45
And in what way was my post BS? Did Davis not ignore his own constitution by failing to fill an entire branch of government that it called for? Were people not locked up and newspapers not censored under his regime? Did the state not take control of whole industries like textile and salt, and exert undue control over others like shipping and railroads? Davis did all this and more, to an extent never contemplated by Lincoln. It is you who can't bear the truth. The truth that as bad as you all say Lincoln was, Davis was worse.
198 posted on 05/01/2002 6:06:10 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: WhiskeyPapa;riseagain;Aurelius
Posted by WhiskeyPapa to Aurelius On News/Activism Apr 30 10:59 AM #91 of 197

"As Lincoln biographer David Donald has written, 'Under the protection of Federal bayonets, New York went Republican by seven thousand votes'... in the 1864 election". The source for the Donald quote is: "Lincoln Reconsidered" Vintage Books, 1961, p. 81.

That is still a secondary source, but it better than nothing. It remains to be seen if it will stand up to the type of scrutiny that is putting Dilorenzo's credibility in the toilet.

Okay, as I thought, Donald changed his tune quite a bit with his more recent bio of Lincoln:

"But there were limits to what Lincoln would do to secure a second term. He did not even consider canceling or postponing the election. Even had that been constitutionally possible, "the election was a necessity." "We can not have free government without elections," he explained; "and if the rebellion could force us to forego, or postpone a national election, it might fairly claim to have already conquered and ruined us." He did not postpone the September draft call, even though Republican politicians from all across the North entreated him to do so. Because Indiana failed to permit its soldiers to vote in the field, he was entirely willing to furlough Sherman's regiments so that they could go home and vote in the October state elections —but he made a point of telling Sherman, "They need not remain for the Presidential election, but may return to you at once."

Though it was clear that the election was going to be a very close one, Lincoln did not try to increase the Republican electoral vote by rushing the admission of new states like Colorado and Nebraska, both of which would surely have voted for his reelection. On October 31, in accordance with an act of Congress, he did proclaim Nevada a state, but he showed little interest in the legislation admitting the new state. Despite the suspicion of both Democrats and Radicals, he made no effort to force the readmission of Louisiana, Tennessee, and other Southern states, partially reconstructed but still under military control, so that they could cast their electoral votes for him. He reminded a delegation from Tennessee that it was the Congress, not the Chief Executive, that had the power to decide whether a state's electoral votes were to be counted and announced firmly, “Except it be to give protection against violence, I decline to interfere in any way with the presidential election.”

"Lincoln", pp. 539-40 by David H. Donald

"Lincoln encouraged soldier voting in the field so enthusiastically that E. B. Washbume said, "If it could be done in no other way, the president would take a carpet bag and go around and collect those votes himself." He even went so far as to permit Republican agents to use a government steamer on the Mississippi River to collect the ballots of sailors on the federal gunboats. On election day hun-dreds of federal employees in Washington were furloughed in order to return to their homes and vote. "Even the camps and hospitals are de- pleted," reported the banker Henry D. Cooke; "the streets wear a quiet Sunday air—in the Department buildings, the empty corridors respond with hollow echoes to the foot fall of the solitary visitor; the hotels are almost tenantless, and the street cars drone lazily along the half-filled seats." The election went off smoothly. From the earliest returns it was clear that the Republicans had won a huge victory they carried every state except New Jersey, Delaware, and Kentucky. The Democrats had waged a vigorous campaign with a united party, and Democratic candidates made a strong showing in the cities and in those counties where there were large numbers of Irish-American and German-American voters. The 45 percent of the popu- lar vote that McClellan received was more than respectable, especially in view of the fact that all the Southern states were still out of the Union and, of course, not voting. Republican success was due largely to the same groups of voters who had supported the party in 1860—native-born farmers in the countryside, better-off skilled workers and professional men in the city, and voters of New England descent everywhere. As in 1860, younger voters were especially attracted to the Republican party, and the soldier vote went overwhelmingly for Lincoln. Election night was rainy and foggy in Washington, and the President spent the evening at the War Department waiting for the returns. The first reports were encouraging, and he sent them over to Mrs. Lincoln, saying, "She is more anxious than I."

Presently Thomas T. Eckert, head of the telegraph office, came in, wet and muddy because he had fallen while crossing the street. In a genial mood, the President was reminded of another rainy evening back in 1858 when he had been on the square at Springfield reading the returns on his contest with Douglas for the Senate. On his way home he nearly fell in the muddy street, but he recovered himself and thought, "It's a slip and not a fall."

"for such an awkward fellow," he remarked to the group in the telegraph office, I am pretty sure footed."

Ibid, p. 544

Donald mentions no form of coercion at all in regards to Lincoln's conduct of either the 1862 or 1864 elections.

Walt

199 posted on 05/01/2002 6:15:56 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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To: rdf;davidjquackenbush;non-sequitur
I sent a link to this thread to DiLorenzo's AOL address.

Walt

200 posted on 05/01/2002 6:39:49 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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