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To: a_Turk
You know right after 9/11 there were a lot of Muslims on TV saying that Islam is a religion of peace and that they regarded Christians and Jews as "people of the book", what does that mean for other religions like Hindus for example.

I'd also like to tell you, basically as an average American, what my issue is with Islam. As a Christian, Islam to me is a false religion, so I really don't care whether or not Osama and his buddies are practicing "true Islam" or not. The fact that it's a false religion doesn't so much bother me, what does bother me is that hundreds of millions of Muslims (and it seems like a majority to me) seem to want everyone who isn't Muslim to either convert or die.

I am also bothered by the fact that so many Muslim "Americans" who couldn't come out and condemn 9/11 came out in droves to criticize our policy in the Middle East. They seem to have a disposition (even if they don't want to kill or convert every non-Muslim) to always take the side of the Muslim in every conflict. You would be hard pressed to find even a "moderate" Muslim who takes the side of the Israelis, the Indians, the Russians, or the Serbs, they will always take the side of the Muslims.

A cousin of mine down in Texas (who admittedly is a very hot tempered guy) got in a fight with a Muslim over a basketball game. This Muslim was able to bring almost every Muslim in the state to help fight against my cousin and his group; all he had to do was tell them that he had gotten in a fight with a Southern Baptist, and Muslims who didn't even know him took his side; they will always help their brother Muslims in a conflict regardless of who is right and wrong. There are a lot more Baptists in Texas than Muslims, but Baptists don't just take the side of someone of their own religion over someone else; Islam is a very tribal religion, the only tribal religion that I know of.

Now I don't know you, but you seem like a decent enough guy, and I am sure there are millions of Muslims who are peaceable folk. But with such hostility coming out of so many Muslims, I simply don't want any more of them immigrating into my country. That's the God honest truth, I simply do not want them here; it's not worth the risk, and it's not like they have a tremendous upside.

My advice to you, as a Muslim who doesn't hate non-Muslims, is to spend your time purging the fanatics among your own religion instead of trying to convince the rest of us that Islam is a peaceful religion. Right now, I simply don't buy it
93 posted on 05/02/2002 8:21:55 PM PDT by Michael2001
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To: Michael2001
There are a lot more Baptists in Texas than Muslims, but Baptists don't just take the side of someone of their own religion over someone else; Islam is a very tribal religion, the only tribal religion that I know of.

There's no question that this is a problem...but how does it differ in concept from a minority of Catholics who pretend that the current molestation scandal is either a plot, much ado about nothing, or anti-Catholic bigotry? It's not right to blind yourself to atrocities committed by members of your particular group, but unfortunately, I think it's human nature. Doesn't excuse it, of course, but Muslims hardly have a lock on that sort of behavior...

97 posted on 05/03/2002 5:35:36 AM PDT by ellery
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