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EU To Attack Bible? America is already anti-Christian
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Posted on 04/29/2002 8:35:33 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: victoria delsoul; 2sheep; thinkin' gal; rnmomof7; crystalk
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To: Sir Gawain
I smell a folklore...hopefully.
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posted on
04/29/2002 8:40:27 AM PDT
by
Portnoy
To: Sir Gawain
America is anti-Christian just because our governmental bodies don't go to great lengths to endorse Christianity as the 'unofficial' religion of the State? This is news to me. I had no trouble going to church both times yesterday. Our local school system doesn't teach Bible classes, but that doesn't have any effect on my ability to study the Bible at home. The local courthouse doesn't display the Ten Commandments, but I'm fine with that since my ability to worship remains intact. I'm quite happy with a government that doesn't allow others (ie- Pat "The Gambler" Robertson) to force their religion on me.
Anyone who thinks that just because Christianity isn't endorsed by governmental bodies that Christianity is under attack by the gummint needs to be inducted into the Tin Foil Hat club.
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posted on
04/29/2002 8:41:33 AM PDT
by
JoeMomma
To: Sir Gawain
"..but they can never make it untrue.."
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posted on
04/29/2002 8:47:50 AM PDT
by
Icthus
To: JoeMomma
America is anti-Christian just because our governmental bodies don't go to great lengths to endorse Christianity as the 'unofficial' religion of the State? What do you think about support for Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo against Christians?
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posted on
04/29/2002 8:53:29 AM PDT
by
A. Pole
To: Sir Gawain
The EU may make the Bible illegal, but they can never make it untrue.
To: Sir Gawain
A liberal dream come true!
Every liberal is a thug.
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posted on
04/29/2002 9:03:42 AM PDT
by
moyden
To: A. Pole
What do you think about support for Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo against Christians?
Are you saying that the support came
because of the parties religion?
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posted on
04/29/2002 9:06:23 AM PDT
by
anguish
To: Portnoy
Under dateline of April 24, 2002, the BBC's online news site reports that the EU could ban the Old Testament on grounds of racism, and criminalize it under the EU's anti-racism laws, according to a British law expert.Comment by an unnamed talking-head "Brit law expert." Speculation. Good rant, though.
To: anguish
What do you think about support for Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo against Christians?
Are you saying that the support came because of the parties religion? Good question. I wonder myself what is the real attitude of the establishment. But puting aside the question of motivation, the truth is that American (and European policy) in Kosovo and Bosnia was/is anti-Christian and pro-Muslim as a matter of facts and not of declared intentions. "Look at what they do and not at what they say".
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posted on
04/29/2002 9:17:08 AM PDT
by
A. Pole
To: JoeMomma
The article took clear cut examples such as state funded teaching of Islam in California. Also, no Christian sounding prayer in school regardless if its to ones self. These are individual rights the state is taking away from us. Its not the lack of endorsemento f Christianity from the govt, its the outright endorsement of atheism as the supreme rule of thought.
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posted on
04/29/2002 9:24:26 AM PDT
by
smith288
To: Sir Gawain
bttt
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posted on
04/29/2002 9:29:48 AM PDT
by
timestax
To: Portnoy
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk_politics/newsid_1947000/1947370.stm
Not folklore. It is on their website.
BBC News
Wednesday, 24 April, 2002, 09:17 GMT 10:17 UK EU law 'could ban' Biggles Biggles was a fictional flying ace People who distribute stories about fictional children's hero Biggles or the Old Testament could be criminalised under a European anti-racism law, a top Law Lord has suggested. Lord Scott told peers that a proposed framework directive for the harmonisation of EU member states' laws against racism and xenophobia "would almost certainly cover Biggles". "It would probably cover the distribution of the Old Testament as well," he said. "I don't know what the government's reaction to this particular proposal will be. "I imagine it will be a mixture of horror and laughter." Terror fears Dashing World War I flying ace James Bigglesworth, nicknamed Biggles was created by Captain WE Johns in the 1930s and spawned dozens of adventure novels, but its seemingly racist terms offended many. Lord Scott was speaking during a debate on proposals for a Europe-wide arrest warrant. He said: "If any member state creates offences on these lines ... and prescribes three years' imprisonment as a possible penalty, we in this country would be expected to extradite the accused under a European arrest warrant." Categories of offences such as racism or xenophobia needed to be made "much more specific". Plans for a Europe-wide arrest warrant were agreed by ministers in the wake of the 11 September US terror attacks for introduction by 2004. Although the UK hopes for an earlier arrangement with five other member states. Extradition fear According to Lord Scott, the European Commission's proposals for an offence included "public dissemination or distribution of tracts, pictures or other material containing expressions of racism or xenophobia". "So distribution of, for example, literature containing expressions of belief in race, colour, national origins etc as a factor determining aversion to individuals or groups would be a criminal offence," Lord Scott argued. "And extradition of a person accused of the offence could be sought under the arrest warrant." Former Euro-MP Lord Kingsland QC, for the Tories, said: "I believe the EU is making a serious mistake in extending the terms of this arrest warrant beyond the issue of terrorism." Home Office minister Lord Rooker, replying to the debate, confirmed that a draft Extradition Bill would be introduced before the summer recess in August, ahead of full legislation next session. Lord Rooker, who did not comment on Lord Scott's comments about Biggles and the Bible, assured peers: "We are not inventing extradition." The Bill aimed to speed up extradition procedures within the EU.
To: truthandlife
FYI
To: moyden
"Every liberal is a thug." The lack of thought behind this defies easy description. I'd imagine some liberals are thugs, just as are some centrists and conservatives. To claim that "every" liberal is this way is nothing more than a way to hoodwink yourself; a way to make it psychologically easier to hate an ill-defined group of people. It makes you feel completely self-righteous, doesn't it? However, it does nothing to further thoughtful political discourse.
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posted on
04/29/2002 9:49:22 AM PDT
by
Redshift
To: Icthus
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To: JoeMomma
In those same government schools Christians are called bigots for not embracing homosexuality. That is a fact! I don't have any problem at all with leaving religion out of the government schools. But while it is not endorsed I expect it to also not be condemned.
Liberals control the schools. It is nothing but re-education camp.
To: DittoJed2
>"I believe the EU is making a serious mistake in extending the terms of this arrest warrant beyond the issue of terrorism." [sarcasm]
Imagine that!
An effort is being made to take measures put in place to battle terrorism and extend them to cover every-day social functioning...
Gee. Who could ever have imagined such a thing occurring?
Not to worry. Such a thing might happen in Europe, but IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE.
Right?!
[/sarcasm off]
Mark W.
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posted on
04/29/2002 10:20:47 AM PDT
by
MarkWar
To: Redshift
When Moyden called every Liberal a thug, it really hid a soft spot with you. Kind of close to home huh.
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posted on
04/29/2002 10:32:09 AM PDT
by
ohioman
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