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Documents Filed by Law Say Negligence by Boy, Parents Contributed to Alleged Abuse
MSNBC.com ^ | 4/29/02 | AP

Posted on 04/29/2002 5:52:35 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts

BOSTON -- Cardinal Bernard F. Law, in documents filed by his attorney, said "negligence" by a then 6-year-old boy and his parents contributed to alleged sexual abuse of the child by a priest. A copy of Law’s legal response, filed in Middlesex Superior Court earlier this month, was provided to The Boston Globe by Roderick MacLeish Jr., who is representing the Fords.

MacLeish, who is scheduled to take Law’s deposition on June 5, said he found the claim by the cardinal to be "appalling."

"There is no set of circumstances under which a 6-year-old child could be blamed for something like this," MacLeish said.

In the court document, Law declares: "The defendant says that the Plaintiffs were not in the exercise of due care, but rather the negligence of the Plaintiffs contributed to cause the injury or damage complained of ..."

The response also says that any damages assessed against Law "should be reduced in proportion to the said negligence of the Plaintiffs."

Carmen Durso, a Boston lawyer who represents others who say they are victims of abuse, told the newspaper that while he found no legal fault with the language, for Law to make use of it "is dumb beyond belief. It is a stupid argument to make when you know that Catholics are already angry at you."

The parents of Gregory Ford, who allegedly was abused by Shanley between 1983 and 1989, reacted angrily to Law’s court defense.

"To say my son is legally responsible for his own abuse at the hands of this monster Shanley when my son was only 6 years old is horrific," Rodney Ford said in an interview published by the Globe on Monday.

An attorney who asked not to be identified told the Globe that Law’s lawyer, Wilson Rogers Jr., would have been derelict had he not included every possible legal defense in his response.

A telephone call to the archdiocese for comment was not immediately returned.

The cardinal’s legal response involves the same lawsuit that forced the Archdiocese of Boston to release about 1,600 pages of Shanley’s records earlier this month. The papers, made public by MacLeish, indicate that Law and his predecessor, Cardinal Humberto S. Medeiros, were aware of Shanley’s longtime advocacy for sex between men and boys. (AP)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cardinallaw; church
Talk about nerve.
1 posted on 04/29/2002 5:52:35 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
How could this man have ever become Cardinal with this lack of insight and compassion ?

First, the church wants to avoid the "worldly" system and deal with this as a sin matter only.

Then, in utilizing the "worldly" system, they permit this kind of language in their legal response.

Has the church lost its mind ?

2 posted on 04/29/2002 5:58:15 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: happygrl
The only thing that outdoes this stupid remark is the arrogrance in which it was said.

I suppose that whenever he talks, his words are beyound questioning.

It appeares that he is hanging onto the edge of the slime pit by his fingernails.

Where have we heard before, "It's everybody elses fault but mine".

"Hey Law, I hope you sleep well and dream of these little boys and girls teasing the priest into perverted act".

You are beyound contempt.

3 posted on 04/29/2002 6:11:41 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: chiefqc
UNbelieveable !
4 posted on 04/29/2002 6:22:48 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
It's unclear what document MacLeish is referring to. If Massachusetts uses the typical sequence, the plaintiff files a complaint and the defendant (archdiocese, Law, whoever) files an answer.

Typically, someone has to assert 'defenses' in their answer to preserve those defenses. If you don't assert them, they might be unavailable.

If (and please remember, I'm saying if), the parents were partially negligent, then it's standard that any award gets reduced.

Juries get asked that all the time. Think of an auto accident were both people run a stop sign at a four-way stop. If you think about it, I'm sure that you'll be able to come up with situations also.

This is not a defense of Cdl Law. From the article, it looks as if this was something the lawyers wrote. I think freepers would agree that lawyers aren't always the most 'sensitive' folks, and boy do they look like jerks here.

As for MacLeish, this is called 'trying your case in the newspapers'.
5 posted on 04/29/2002 6:34:24 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Hey, the kid was asking for it! He came to church, church, for God's sake, waiving that thing around. The kid knew it was more than a faggot priest could take. The blame is clearly the kid's. You got to love Law's style on this. Clinton and his White House sewer dwellers must be coaching Law at every turn.

The problem is not paedophilia, the problem is fairy priests, some of whom go after children because they are the easiest targets. Law is protecting fairies, probably, because he knows that if he goes after them, he'll lose half his staff. We got "don't ask, don't tell" in the clergy and the bishops don't want to do anything about it. I like the thought of promoting Law to Rome. It just has the feel of the federal government.

6 posted on 04/29/2002 6:34:34 AM PDT by Tacis
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
The story on this from the Boston Globe is posted here.
7 posted on 04/29/2002 6:43:33 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
No doubt about it now. This Catholic believes the man needs to resign. And none of that "it's not my decision to make, it's up to the Vatican" baloney. All you have to do is just give notice, hang up your robe and walk away.
8 posted on 04/29/2002 7:22:43 AM PDT by Nathan Jr.
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I've criticized Cardinal Law, but he can't be faulted on this. When somebody sues the Church for millions, he has to turn it over to the lawyers and let them deal with it as best they may. This is obviously a legal ploy.

What else can he do? The diocese has lost millions that should have gone to pay for hospitals, schools, upkeep of churches, and other good things. His lack of control is partly responsible, but somebody still has to deal with the lawsuits. Abused children deserve some sort of consideration--although it's not clear that money is what they need. But keep in mind that at least some of these cases are probably bogus. There are lawyers on both sides, fighting it out in court or trying to reach favorable settlements, and we all know what that means.

9 posted on 04/29/2002 7:39:04 AM PDT by Cicero
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To: Mike Fieschko
"From the article, it looks as if this was something the lawyers wrote..."

I agree. I spoke with an attorney friend and he said that this language was entered into this document as an "affirmative defense". It is strictly boilerplate in civil cases. If it is not there, then that particular defense is not available later on in any trial if there is one.


10 posted on 04/29/2002 8:40:46 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: maryz
Sorry. I did a search before posting but got no hits. I should have searched on the word 'alleged'.
11 posted on 04/29/2002 8:43:17 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
This is outrageous. Is there any way to put the Boston Archdiocese's tax exemption in jeopardy if they persist in these despicable legal tactics?
12 posted on 04/29/2002 8:43:50 AM PDT by white trash redneck
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I spoke with an attorney friend and he said that this language was entered into this document as an "affirmative defense". It is strictly boilerplate in civil cases. If it is not there, then that particular defense is not available later on in any trial if there is one.

Golly ... I wonder if MacLeish knew that? < /sarcasm>

But there's got to be an 'inoffensive' way to present it (can't think of a better term).
13 posted on 04/29/2002 8:47:58 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I'm not the posting police -- I only pointed out the other posting (from another source) because I thought people would like to read the comments on the other thread too.
14 posted on 04/29/2002 8:48:24 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Cicero
I've criticized Cardinal Law, but he can't be faulted on this. When somebody sues the Church for millions, he has to turn it over to the lawyers and let them deal with it as best they may. This is obviously a legal ploy.

Cicero, you are ordinarily a voice of sanity on this forum, but, out of concern for the Church, you've lost your perspective on this one.

This is abominally stupid, and will likely result in an even HIGHER monetary award from any jury in the Northeast.

Why is Law "defending" himself, when he knows there's nothing to defend?

15 posted on 04/29/2002 8:51:13 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Cicero
"His lack of control is partly responsible.."

Keep dreaming. His lack of control is ENTIRELY responsible. If Law had even an ounce of moral courage in his body he would have removed the priest-molester the instant it happened. But, since Law is a spineless coward, the situation became what it is. Boy the Catholic church sure has got some real winners in charge of their organization.

16 posted on 04/29/2002 9:04:52 AM PDT by fogarty
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To: sinkspur
abominally

Doh!

Should have been "abominably."

17 posted on 04/29/2002 9:11:31 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Cicero
...but he can't be faulted on this. When somebody sues the Church for millions, he has to turn it over to the lawyers and let them deal with it as best they may. This is obviously a legal ploy.

NO, Civil courts need to protect the innocent...the church needs to pay up. Also, Church leaders need to put child molesters and homosexuals out of the church, as commanded by the Word. If Church leaders refuse, THOSE LEADERS need to be put out of the Church. Any other response is unacceptable.

18 posted on 04/29/2002 9:17:34 AM PDT by OldDominion
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To: sinkspur
This is abominally stupid, and will likely result in an even HIGHER monetary award from any jury in the Northeast.

Boy oh boy ... here it comes:

'Your Eminence, please read to the jury your response to the claims against you.'

'Would you please tell the jury in what way the six-year-old child failed to, I quote, "exercise due care" with Fr Shanley?'

'Take your time.'
19 posted on 04/29/2002 9:22:00 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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