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Lewisville siblings face hearings in brother's killing - lawyer: teen murderer "is a loving child"
The Dallas Morning News ^
| April 27, 2002
| By KENDALL ANDERSON and RACHEL HORTON / The Dallas Morning News
Posted on 04/27/2002 4:06:09 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: ValerieUSA; Maxwell; oldironsides; joesnuffy; FITZ; DontMessWithMyCountry; Brownie74; archy...
Still no picture of the teen on this article.
I guess they need to protect her rights.........
sigh..........
To: MeeknMing
I like the way the lawyer says she doesn't know who's to blame, including the school district. If the school district bears any blame, it is way down the line. The parents are at home with those kids every day and should be legally responsible. Of course, gee, the school district makes a good target. Let's hold whoever can give up the most money responsible. (the taxpayer)
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posted on
04/27/2002 4:28:49 PM PDT
by
Clara Lou
To: MeeknMing
Still no picture of the teen on this article. Some people do not show up in photos and their reflection can't be seen in a mirror. Maybe she is one of them
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posted on
04/27/2002 4:52:31 PM PDT
by
Brownie74
To: MeeknMing
"Little children are not made and not born monsters," said Ms. McCary. "She is not one." On the contrary, Ms. McCary, she is!
Normal children don't commit cold-blooded murder of their six-year old sibling. Only "monsters" do that.
Whether the monster she is was "made" or "born" is immaterial. Because, now, she is what she is: a murderer.
A life sentence is in perfectly good order.
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posted on
04/27/2002 5:12:52 PM PDT
by
okie01
To: Brownie74
From the reports I've seen, she's no angel. A pair of
scissors in another students face???.......hmm?
To: MeeknMing
"It's hard to know who to blame in this Heres a novel idea...........how about the 15 yr old who murdered her brother.
To: Clara Lou
The girl was repeatedly teased at school, classmates have said. If the school district bears any blame, it is way down the line. The parents are at home with those kids every day and should be legally responsible.
If the parents put their child through the mental abuse that the school can put the child through the child would be removed from the home. That people give so much benefit of the doubt to public schools is amazing.
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posted on
04/27/2002 5:38:15 PM PDT
by
PuNcH
To: MeeknMing
If the girl has been taken to counseling regularly, I would like to see the "counselor" in court accounting for the therapy (probably paid for by the state). Too many charlatans are in the counseling biz leading parents and schools and courts to think a situation is under control. I also want to know what kind of medication this girl had been taking.
To: MeeknMing
she's 15 years old and in 7th Grade???!!!
To: latina4dubya
To: MeeknMing
Another Yates type trial. It wasn't her fault, she was just a little depressed and on the wrong meds.
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posted on
04/27/2002 6:03:15 PM PDT
by
FITZ
To: PuNcH
If the parents put their child through the mental abuse that the school can put the child through the child would be removed from the home. That people give so much benefit of the doubt to public schools is amazing.
Parents are primarily responsible for the upbringing of their children. Did the girl get teased because she was vicious to other students? (You seem to assume that she was mean in response to the teasing she received.) Are her classmates telling the unbiased truth, or a child's version of the truth? We don't know, do we? We do know that the child lived in a home with two parents. If kids at school were teasing the girl, why did she kill her little brother, and not the teasers? We do know that the child received counseling. Did the child tell the counselors about the teasing? If not, why not? If she didn't tell the counselors, did she tell her parents? If she didn't tell the parents or sounselors, did she tell the teachers?
You've got a few preconceived notions, don't you?
To: Clara Lou
Darn, I didn't fininsh editing before I clicked "Post reply."
To: Clara Lou
Looks like you have a preconcieved POST hah! joking ;)
I'm not saying I know what happened here, I'm just suggesting that the public school should be a high profile suspect as to causing emotion harm to the kid.
I doubt other kids teased her based on her having bad behavior but even so that is still the schools negligence to allow it in an ongoing situation. Teasing or bullying are not usually done out of justice.
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posted on
04/27/2002 6:39:07 PM PDT
by
PuNcH
To: PuNcH
My situation: I teach at a public middle school here in Texas.
At our school, we have teachers specifically trained (16 hours of it-- I did it) to mediate problems between students. We also have conducted a series of lessons school-wide on bullying. We've defined what bullying is, encouraged kids to understand that it wrong, asked kids to walk away when it happens rather than fight, to contact an adult instead. In other words, our campus is doing everything we know to do to help students resolve problems without violence, to encourage students to avoid causing others pain, and to help students understand that they don't have to accept abuse of any sort from other kids.
We did this because we do not want our kids to be afraid to come to school. We care about our kids. (Of course, you and the rest here will have to take that with a grain of salt because it cumz frum a publik school teecher whose only interest is the great wealth that comes via the profession. Oh-- and I forgot to mention the great sex one can have with pubescent boys. /sarcasm)
To: MeeknMing
"It's hard to know who to blame in this," Well, of course that came from the defense attorney...I can tell you who to blame. You blame the 15 year old sister and the ten year old brother.
To: Clara Lou
"... asked kids to walk away when it happens rather than fight..."Our philosophies on this are as different as the sun and the moon. I'm amazed that these boys' fathers are actually permitting you to turn their sons into cowards.
To: Bonaparte
That's right, I'm turning them into cowards. Yes, indeed. There's something wrong with a school where there's no violence-- right, friend? I was under the mistaken impression that schools were for education, not preparing for going postal as an adult. Kids should expect to get whaled on by classmates at school? And, then, of course, there's the parent who sues the school district because the child got into a fight and got some teeth knocked out. And then there's the teacher who is sued because she reached in and grabbed on of the fighters by the arm and left-- horror of horrors-- marks on the child's arm. And let's not forget the teacher who gets knocked down because both of those 6th or 7th-grade boys outweigh her.
You are a troglodyte.
To: SouthernFreebird
I understand your feelings in this case but something is desperately out of whack here.
We just finished the Yates case in which, to read the newspaper editorials and letters to the editor here in Houston, Yates was a "martyr" to the cause of women's rights.
Well, leaving that notion aside for a moment, whatever may have been her motivation Yates was an adult.
This girl is a CHILD, and has never been wholely responsible for her actions.
I think some punishment is warranted, but this is obviously a girl who is ill, and probably has been for some time.
In the Yates case, many here on FR wanted to hold her husband responsible in some way. I thought that was bizarre, because husbands and wives are PEERS. A husband is not "the responsible one" in a marriage.
But in this case the girl is NOT responsible for what she has done, at least not legally (and I have to defer to God to determine what degree of moral responsibility she must accept). In this case the parents are wholely responsible for their children's behavior, including whether they are receiving adequate care. From the looks of things, instead, the parents were concerned about "launching their home-based business," and too preoccupied with self-indulgence to pay attention to the obvious disarray their family was in.
That's just inexcusable to me.
So, whatever is decided about the girl, to my mind she cannot bear a great deal of responsibility for her actions as a fifteen year old child. She had parents, and those parents should have been minding the store. It seems to me that they were remiss.
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posted on
04/28/2002 7:29:55 AM PDT
by
Illbay
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