[Physicist]

So you're basically saying that if there was a Big Bang, it wasn't caused.

How do we know that?

You're missing the point. If there was a big bang, it doesn't mathematically require a cause, whether or not it in fact had one. The question "what happened before the big bang" or "what caused the big bang" is not a question that requires an answer, and the big bang cannot be logically refuted on any such grounds.

[Sabertooth]

You're missing the point. If there was a big bang, it doesn't mathematically require a cause, whether or not it in fact had one.

Actually, that was half of my point...

Acausation is also not mathematically required, no?

The question "what happened before the big bang" or "what caused the big bang" is not a question that requires an answer, and the big bang cannot be logically refuted on any such grounds.

True and true... scientifically.

Whatever there is/was (or isn't/wasn't) beyond that primordial singularity is outside the realm of science. And that's no knock on science.

[AndrewC]

it doesn't mathematically require a cause,

No and neither does God. Mathematics and logic do not address cause and effect.

[berned]

If there was a big bang, it doesn't mathematically require a cause,

So... "Once upon a time, there was nothing...

... then it EXPLODED!!!"

[Outraged At FLA]

If you read the article and others about it, you will find that they do not say there wasn't a big bang, they are saying that there is a big bang every few trillions of years once the universe becomes so vast it basically flattens out. Here is another article:

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/new_universe_020425.html

It actually makes sense, but does have holes in it, yet, the big bang theory still has some cracks..

[tet68]

Sort of like being born.