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To: uncbob
It may not have been directly assoicated with the Catholic Church but religion was the sole reason behind denying an abortion.. two medical advances made abortion easier and safer so the mortality of rate of women having an abortion declined signifcantly. These had huge impacts on Roe vs Wade.. aslo the threat of back alley aboritons.. the spreading of dieases and the fact that the mortality rate would shoot back up were all causes for Roe vs Wade... it simply comes down to the fact that morality cannot be forced on to others... It's safer, more responsible, and the freedoms of Americans are in intact because he is LEGAL.
163 posted on 04/22/2002 9:10:40 AM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Almondjoy
...religion was the sole reason behind denying an abortion.

I'll agree with you only because early Christians did not kill their children -- whereas their contemporaries, the early Romans, just discarded any unwanted children, leaving them in the street to die or to be rescued by someone else. To me, that is one of the greatest signs that Christianity is the Way and the Truth. If pride were not one of the seven deadly sins, I would say that I am PROUD of the Christian stance on caring for helpless children.

This country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles, and that is why abortion was anathama and illegal. Roe v. Wade is an abomination and a great stain on this society. I pray for its reversal.

169 posted on 04/22/2002 9:19:09 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Almondjoy
It's safer, more responsible, and the freedoms of Americans are in intact because he is LEGAL.

First of all it ain't safe for the unborn child . IT DIES

Secondly-- My freedoms are never made more INTACT when the constitution is raped which is what happened in ROE VS WADE by an activist judiciary
174 posted on 04/22/2002 9:27:52 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Almondjoy
it simply comes down to the fact that morality cannot be forced on to others.

Prohibiting th murder of the most innocent and helpless in a community has always been thought to be a "morality" that can--indeed, must--be forced on the others. Roe v. Wade got around this by judicially legislating that some segments of society are free to murder with impunity and solely for personal convenience.

To make this ghastly murder psychically palatable, Roe v. Wade and the feminist lobby redefined the victim as subhuman (a definitional shift that is invariably applied to one's enemies in wartime as well) and postured it as a libertarian "freedom of choice" (the usual fig leaf employed by the politics of heedless self-indulgence) issue. Recast, the issue was not about destroying innocent human life, but the moral equivalent of having a wart removed.

If buying into that lie makes you more comfortable with mass murder, that's your problem. Just realize you are employing the same rationalization the the Nazis used to justify the holocaust and that the SCOTUS used in the 1850s to declare that some men, women, and children were mere personal property that could be disposed of at the convenience and will of the property owner.

I would be ashamed of being associated with such a brutal and inhumane legacy. Not so the pro-aborts. They have no shame.

175 posted on 04/22/2002 9:28:22 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Almondjoy
religion was the sole reason behind denying an abortion.

This is not a fact. The major reasons behind the laws making abortion illegal were advances in medicine and the feminism of the suffragettes. Up until the early 19th century most physicians and other people had no idea that unborn children were alive, before the so called 'quickening' in the fifth month, which had been interpreted as the beginning of life. Abortion was not feasible after that point, and the realization that the child was alive led the medical associations to forbid physicians to assist in abortions.

Early suffragettes, such as Susan B. Anthony, recognized that the function of abortion was to allow men to exploit women for sexual purposes, without consequences. The fact that this is true is still demonstrated by the fact that abortion is more supported by men than women in America today.

177 posted on 04/22/2002 9:29:11 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Almondjoy
morality cannot be forced on to others

That's a typical chant of the left as they force their "morals" on everyone else. The difference is that their morals are all relative, whereas Christian morals are absolute as defined and revealed by God.

178 posted on 04/22/2002 9:30:31 AM PDT by ELS
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To: Almondjoy
morality cannot be forced on to others

It already is. They're called laws.;-)

202 posted on 04/22/2002 10:24:58 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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