1 posted on
04/22/2002 2:43:14 AM PDT by
kattracks
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To: kattracks
Msgr Clark is spot on. A breath of truth parts the media smog.
To: kattracks
Its about time some one identified the true problem, "HOMOSEXUALS" and stoped presenting the problem as this pedofilia(sp)......
Granted some of the kids were pre-pubesant but not all and the problem is being ID'd as "HOMOSEXUAL" by the media because to do other wise is not "PC" which is "BS".....
3 posted on
04/22/2002 3:00:03 AM PDT by
CGASMIA68
To: kattracks
Careful with that axe Eugene!
probably the most immoral country
Donahue
...he makes a great deal of sense...one of the brighter priests
Blame the United States of America??? You liberal pigs in a pulpit need to get your head examined. CRIMINAL and their ENABLERS (which you have apparently become) are INDIVIDUALS. All of the blame goes to the CRIMINAL INDIVIDUAL. Victims can't catch a break with these immoral, morons masquerading as thinkers.
4 posted on
04/22/2002 3:00:10 AM PDT by
PGalt
To: kattracks
Well, it is about time someone in the church said it is about HOMOSEXUALITY!
5 posted on
04/22/2002 3:04:59 AM PDT by
SkyPilot
To: beekeeper
ping
6 posted on
04/22/2002 3:12:09 AM PDT by
KeyWest
To: kattracks
7 posted on
04/22/2002 3:18:50 AM PDT by
SkyPilot
To: kattracks
We don't want your children....honest"
8 posted on
04/22/2002 3:22:24 AM PDT by
SkyPilot
To: kattracks
I commend the Msgr. for addressing the issue head on but particularly regarding homosexuality but.. "constant assault on celibacy by liberals" ..now IF all the assaults, as some have asserted, happened in the 60s,70's, etc.. I don't recall any huge assault by the liberals on celibacy then. And also if it an American problem, how is it there has been sexual scandal etc from other countries?
10 posted on
04/22/2002 3:29:33 AM PDT by
Zipporah
To: kattracks;dansangel
Christine Schubert of St. Paul dashed out of the cathedral midway through the homily. "I left because I realized I have no desire to be connected with the institution of the Catholic Church," said Schubert, 27. "I thought, wouldn't it be great if the entire church walked out?" The ones that have a problem with this and the Msgr's Homily are the ones that have a problem.
14 posted on
04/22/2002 4:18:28 AM PDT by
.45MAN
To: kattracks
I suppose that homosexuality is the reason why archdiocese after archdiocese covered up these attacks and shifted the perpetrators from parish to parish to allow them to prey again? The fact that this happened at all is terrible. The fact that it happened and the Archbishops covered it up instead of taking steps to remove the men involved is unforgivable. It seems to me that the Monsignor is trying to shift the spotlight away from the Cardinal.
To: kattracks
"The tendency to homosexuality is a disorder, not a sin," he said. "But the practice of homosexuality is truly sinful." Some parishioners in the packed pews shifted uneasily, others nodded in agreement and a few walked out. But Clark continued, arguing that it was a "grave mistake" to allow gays in the priesthood. He blamed American society for being "very protective" of homosexuality.
"Homosexuality became in the American exchange of views a protected area,"
Wow, what an absolute breath of fresh and truthful air! He is so spot on. Particularly the "protected area" comment. How many people here have been called homophobes at some time for merely disagreeing with a homosexual lifestyle or promotion of it?
16 posted on
04/22/2002 4:40:19 AM PDT by
glory
To: kattracks
We are, very slowly, getting to the heart of this matter.
I am waiting for either the media, or the church leaders, to begin to call this crime by its name, "Homosexual Statutory Rape".
Legions of underage boys were raped by clerics. And many church leaders were (are) "co-conspiritors, after the fact".
To: kattracks
Christine Schubert of St. Paul dashed out of the cathedral midway through the homily. "I left because I realized I have no desire to be connected with the institution of the Catholic Church," said Schubert, 27. "I thought, wouldn't it be great if the entire church walked out?"
But they didn't Christine...because most Catholics and I suspect most Americans, have the moral clarity of those who applauded after, but are too scared of being pegged as a homophobe in thier jobs, lives, etc to actually come out and say what the Msgr did. Fact is, you are in the minority, and I hope clergy, rabbi, etc like this, give people the courage to put homosexuality back where it belongs...in the abnormal psychology books. The real disgusting thing is that there are people out there with this condition that can be treated, but they are being denied that treatment by gay apologists like you and in turn ruining more lives that could have been treated for this condition.
18 posted on
04/22/2002 4:46:58 AM PDT by
glory
To: kattracks
I love this guy. He's on EWTN frequently. Spoke at our Church's Lenten Lecture Series two years ago. Time to make him a Cardinal.
19 posted on
04/22/2002 4:56:44 AM PDT by
Diago
To: kattracks
IT'S ABOUT TIME!!! Yes, as people point out, administrative negligence led to the specific opportunities for these crimes to take place. But, at the root of the problem is the liberal permissiveness that allowed a culture of homosexuality to develop and thrive within the priesthood.
In order to protect the young men and boys who have overwhelmingly been the victims of these crimes, the problem of homosexual priests must be addressed. To ignore this would be every bit as negligent as the decision to transfer the guilty priests around to various parishes.
20 posted on
04/22/2002 5:00:31 AM PDT by
B Knotts
To: kattracks
Christine Schubert of St. Paul dashed out of the cathedral midway through the homily. "I left because I realized I have no desire to be connected with the institution of the Catholic Church," said Schubert, 27. "I thought, wouldn't it be great if the entire church walked out?" Something about a door striking one in the behind comes to mind.
Why do I get the feeling that this woman is a non-Catholic shill, trying to get her opinion in the paper? Or, maybe even a "friend" of the author?
21 posted on
04/22/2002 5:03:16 AM PDT by
B Knotts
To: kattracks
He also called homosexuality "a disorder" NO need to put it in quotes, its a disorder and always has been. This paraphilia was removed from the DSM by perversionists for perversionists at the APA. Its a paraphilia plain and simple. Division 44 is dominated by those who practice perversion.
To: kattracks
He blamed American society for being "very protective" of homosexuality. Lemmings syndrome is alive and well among the Liberaltarians and just plain old liberals.
To: kattracks
It is not pointed out or emphasized enough that the majority of male homosexuals were VICTIMS of sexual abuse by males as children and teenagers.
Women victims of rape often need counseling because in some cases they believe they were the cause of the attack.
A similar situation exists for those who were the victims of homosexual molestation. They probably feel they were the cause and must really be homosexual . They also probably think they are now worthless as a heterosexual mate for the opposite sex and drift into a full fledged homosexual lifestyle.
We are seeing examples of victims suing for the fact they needed counseling etc but I wonder how many are not suing because they are now firmly trapped in the homosexaul community>
The message that this is the way and how most homosexuals are created has to be brought out again and again
27 posted on
04/22/2002 5:20:25 AM PDT by
uncbob
To: kattracks
Some parishioners in the packed pews shifted uneasily, others nodded in agreement and a few walked out. The only time I've seen people walk out of Mass was during a rare sermon regarding the disorder of homosexuality.
What's that about?
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