Posted on 04/21/2002 8:39:25 PM PDT by vance
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I do not suspect that Le Pen will win in the run off. There are still too many, with too long a history, of identification with the Left in France. If most of them who bother to vote, join the large French Center under Chirac, Chirac will indeed win by the landslide predicted. Nevertheless, the gradual upward trend for Le Pen--I believe that he was at 14% in 1995--is encouraging. That he defeated the Socialist candidate, and obtained 5 times the vote of the Communist candidate, are truly good omens.
Of course, Le Pen is not the Far Right in French politics, but the Far Right today are so outnumbered that they do not even field candidates. However, there are still those who would restore the Bourbons--which is the true Far Right in France.
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I have seen no evidence that Le Pen is anti-semitic. His frequently quoted comment on the Gas Chambers is certainly no endorsement of such cruel atrocities. At most it is a bit of reverse hyperbole--i.e. over-emphasizing his disagreement with the emphasis that some put on that aspect of World War II. He has certainly not suggested anything adverse to French Jews, that I have seen; and indeed his program for dealing with the Algerian question, would tend to be protective of French Jews, who have lately been victims of Algerian violence. As for his attitude towards the Algerians, themselves: That is not based on their semitic roots, but on their being incongrous to the continuity of a French France.
Yes, the mainstream media in France does appear to be much like the mainstream media in most of the rest of the world: They view all issues via a tremendous Leftwing bias. (This is a result of the Leftward drift in most of the verbal professions during the 20th Century, a theme we have dealt with at the Web Site.)
I find Le Pen's strong showing a very positive event.
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Seriously, the press always paints someone as extremist when they're running on a platform that is against The Plan.
Tuor
Thanks for your detailed response....now I understand the bigger picture in France.
But if Le Pen's strong showing isn't alarming in itself, The Weekly Standard's Christopher Caldwell http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/162pmono.asp
argues that Le Pen's ideology "has a great deal in common with that of the French hard left":
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It begins with globalism and ends in an alliance with (and abetting of) anti-Semites. But whereas the old right's anti-Semitism is vestigial and utterly hemmed in by French constitutional practice, this new left's anti-Semitism--which operates through an identification with Islamicist ideology that was spreading like poison even before Zacharias Moussaoui replaced Camembert as France's most famous export--is activist, violent, and chic.
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There have been a number of ugly incidents lately, where Algerian and other Third World Moslems living in France have attacked French Jews. So I suspect that Le Pen is actually drawing some Jewish support now, whether or not the so called leaders are attacking him.
The problem with both the Wall Street Journal and the Weekly Standard is that they have a sort of "tunnel vision" on the subject of Globalization. They are so preoccupied with the business benefits of the global economy, that they have lost sight of important cultural issues. In their own way, they are as far "out to sea," as some of the most radical of the demonstrators against globalism.
I personally favor a maximum of economic freedom. But I would shun, socially, and denounce as the worst form of blackguard, anyone who operates on the basis that profits are the only thing that matters. While it may not be for Government to tell anyone where they can invest their money, or where to buy or sell goods--except in a wartime situation--that certainly does not excuse anyone from the normal claims on loyalty--or respect for the normal ties of consanguinity or the legitimate claims of community, State or National interest.
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He also represents a unique strand in French political life which has been there since the 1950's - that of the populist maverick who doesn't like foreigners. His programme has shifted back and forth over time but not on that point. And given the street crime which is disproportionately committed by immigrant youth - the average François is apparently fed up with socialist piffle in reply.
Regards, Ivan
Well, but hasn't that--with the exception, perhaps of Bastiat--been pretty much French history? France lost her chance to achieve the Anglo-Saxon/Celtic economic miracle, when she expelled the Huguenots in 1688. (While that has been attributed to religious intolerance, it really reflected, in my opinion, economic jealousy.) She has never really been willing to trust a truly entrepreneurial class. I don't mean to be overly critical. I love the food and the pretty girls in Paris. But is there any real movement in France equivalent to the renaissance that Maggie Thatcher worked in Britain?
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You are right to suggest however that the state has had much larger role in political and economic life in France than in England or America. It has been their greatest source of weakness.
Regards, Ivan
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