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BBC: Jenin camp 'horrific beyond belief'
BBC online ^ | Thursday, 18 April, 2002, 20:01 GMT 21:01 UK | news.bbc.co.uk

Posted on 04/18/2002 4:34:54 PM PDT by history_matters

The UN envoy likened Jenin to an earthquake zone

A United Nations envoy has said that the devastation left by Israeli forces in a Palestinian refugee camp in the West Bank is "horrific beyond belief".

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I think I can speak for all in the UN delegation
in saying that we are shocked

Terje Roed-Larsen
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Terje Roed-Larsen, who toured the Jenin refugee camp on Thursday, said it was "morally repugnant" that Israel had not allowed emergency workers in for 11 days to provide humanitarian relief.

The UN Secretary General Kofi Annan has asked the Security Council to consider sending an armed multinational force to the region, under Chapter Seven of the UN Charter which authorises military force to impose council decisions.

US President George W Bush said on Thursday that he believed an Israeli withdrawal was under way and that it was going to schedule.


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Desribing Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as "a man of peace", Mr Bush said Mr Sharon had begun his promised withdrawal and it was being done "quickly".

"He gave me a timetable and he's met the timetable," Mr Bush said.

Palestinian spokesman Saeb Erekat called Mr Bush's comments "a gift, a reward for Sharon's policy of state terrorism and war crimes".

Israel pulled its forces out of Jenin town and part of the refugee camp before dawn on Thursday.

Officials said they were also withdrawing from Nablus and that over the next three days troops would leave most West Bank areas apart from Ramallah and Bethlehem.

Search and rescue

The BBC's correspondent said Mr Roed-Larsen was highly regarded in the region and his criticism would put more pressure on the Israelis to fully withdraw.

Palestinians claim hundreds of bodies are buried beneath the rubble, but Israel says the numbers of dead are far fewer. An independent forensic expert says evidence suggests that a massacre has taken place.

Mr Roed-Larsen said the top priority was to bring in search-and-rescue teams. The only rescue efforts currently under way are residents digging though the ruins looking for survivors.

"It is totally destroyed, it looks like an earthquake has hit it," he said.

Aid agencies now have access to Jenin

"I am watching two brothers pull their father from the ruins, the stench of death is horrible. We are seeing a 12-year-old boy being dug out, totally burned," he said.

"We have expert people here who have been in war zones and earthquakes and they say they have never seen anything like it," he added.

Mr Roed-Larsen, who is the UN's Special Co-ordinator for the occupied Palestinian territories, was visiting the camp with Red Cross and UN workers.

He added: "It is totally unacceptable that the government of Israel for 11 days did not allow search and rescue teams to come."

Kofi Annan made his appeal for armed intervention at a closed session of the Security Council. Israeli spokesmen swiftly rejected it while Mr Erekat said it was the "right way to start fighting Israeli aggression"

Mr Annan said there was a need for a force large enough to take "decisive action" to end the deadly cycle of attacks.

The multinational force should be assembled by countries willing to supply troops and should have "a robust mandate," he said, adding later, "I expect the United States to play an important role."

Israel 'concerned'

Israel invaded the Jenin camp on 3 April, saying it was a hotbed of Palestinian militancy and declaring it a closed military zone.

Palestinian claims of an Israeli massacre in the camp have been denied, although British forensic expert Prof Derrick Pounder has said that the evidence points to large numbers of civilian dead.

Prof Pounder is part of an Amnesty International team granted access to Jenin.

The Israeli forces are pulling back "according to the timetable"

Danny Ayalon, the chief foreign policy adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, said that Israel shared the humanitarian concerns and was already allowing some aid teams to operate.

The partial pull-out by Israel came a day after the departure of US Secretary of State Colin Powell, who left the region without achieving a ceasefire or a full withdrawal of Israeli troops.

Israel says troops will continue to surround the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem, where a group of armed Palestinians are among more than 200 people who have been holed up for more than two weeks.

Israel launched its assault on Palestinian towns on 29 March after a suicide bomber killed 28 people celebrating the Jewish Passover.

Israel says it will also continue to surround the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's compound in Ramallah


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bethlehem; bush; holyland; israel; jenin; nativity; pa; palestine; un
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1 posted on 04/18/2002 4:34:54 PM PDT by history_matters
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To: Askel5; LarryLied; Romulus
p i n g
2 posted on 04/18/2002 4:35:24 PM PDT by history_matters
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To: history_matters
Darn it ... it just isn't fair when the Israeli's hit back.
3 posted on 04/18/2002 4:36:38 PM PDT by Hodar
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To: history_matters
Desribing Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as "a man of peace"

Nothing so quiet and peaceful as a dead Palestinian. Right, Ariel?

4 posted on 04/18/2002 4:39:09 PM PDT by wotan
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To: history_matters
Terje Roed-Larsen, who toured the Jenin refugee camp on Thursday, said it was "morally repugnant" that Israel had not allowed emergency workers in for 11 days to provide humanitarian relief.

Ummm. Wasn't the other side shooting too?

5 posted on 04/18/2002 4:39:16 PM PDT by lepton
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To: history_matters
RE:Palestinians claim hundreds of bodies are buried beneath the rubble,
 
And we should of course, eat this up, seeing as how it comes from people who are members of a culture that regard lying as a virtue.
6 posted on 04/18/2002 4:40:05 PM PDT by tomakaze
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To: wotan
At least you don't have to worry about them blowing up.
7 posted on 04/18/2002 4:40:42 PM PDT by tet68
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To: tomakaze
Europeans are generally morally repugnant.
8 posted on 04/18/2002 4:42:22 PM PDT by joltinjoe
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To: tomakaze
Europeans are generally morally repugnant.
9 posted on 04/18/2002 4:42:56 PM PDT by joltinjoe
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To: wotan
If so, than maybe peace is worth fighting for.
10 posted on 04/18/2002 4:44:02 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: history_matters
I find these comments morally repugnant. Not ONE of these people had a thing to say about the site at WTC. If they want to see something devestating they should have looked at that, but did any one of them bother? They want to talk about the stench of death? How about the stench of dozens of people blasted to pieces in Israel. How is it these moral lizards never bother to speak about that?

What totally repulsive human beings.

11 posted on 04/18/2002 4:44:54 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: tomakaze
Mr. Roed-Larsen also said:

"I am watching two brothers pull their father from the ruins, the stench of death is horrible. We are seeing a 12-year-old boy being dug out, totally burned," he said. "We have expert people here who have been in war zones and earthquakes and they say they have never seen anything like it," he added.

I assume Mr. Roed-Larsen didn't visit New York last fall.

12 posted on 04/18/2002 4:45:04 PM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: history_matters
It's strange how the BBC never described the suicide bombings of Israeli civilians and the carnage at the WTC as "horrific beyond belief". I won't be holding my breath in anticipation.
13 posted on 04/18/2002 4:47:13 PM PDT by grimalkin
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To: history_matters
A reporter for CBS this evening, in his piece, inadvertently explained this and the entire Arab/Israeli conflict as seen by the media.

What's the truth? "It doesn't matter" because the Arabs believe.

Truth doesn't matter, folks.

Black is white, up is down, night is day, right is wrong. Doesn't matter.

If the Arabs believe Mossad took down the WTC, that Jews eat blood pastries, that there ever was a "Palestinian" people or a "Palestinian" state, that there are massacres every where and anywhere they lose a battle, that the US is the great Satan, that all us infidels should die- well tough, live with it. It's what they believe- and that's good enough.

14 posted on 04/18/2002 4:48:21 PM PDT by Sabramerican
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To: wotan
Peace is made by destroying one's enemies.
15 posted on 04/18/2002 4:48:40 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: history_matters
"The multinational force should be assembled by countries willing to supply troops and should have "a robust mandate," he said, adding later, "I expect the United States to play an important role."

Guess again Pal, it ain't happening.

16 posted on 04/18/2002 4:49:20 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: history_matters
So the pali propagandists gave AI the nickel tour and AI soaked it all up. Maybe the palis would be so horrified that they would condemn homicide bombers and seek true peace. Nah, they love their role as terrorists too much.
17 posted on 04/18/2002 4:49:30 PM PDT by Brett66
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To: history_matters
Let's accept for a moment the recent claim that 300 buildings have been bull-dozed, rendering 2000 people homeless. The generally accepted population of the Jenin Camp is 13,000. If Israelis were intent or (or slid into) wanton carnage, there would have been a lot more destruction than that. There is clear evidence (unless the Israelis fabricated it) that weapons for attacks on civilians were stored, assembled, and manufactured in the camp, in many separate locations. If you have to knock down 5 dwellings of innocent bystanders to get access to a bomb factory down a narrow lane where armor will not fit, that's the contingencies of war and the innocent bystanders are regrettable but unavoidable victims of the misdeeds of their neighbors. 300 destroyed dwellings doesn't sound like a lot to me, it sounds like a surgical thrust, sparing as much a possible. Don't even get me started on how much damage booby-traps may have caused. A friend asked me how I could imagine that Palestinians would damage their own. My reply was that if they were too weak to kill their enemies, they might kill some of their own if, by doing so, they could make the Israelis look bad.
18 posted on 04/18/2002 4:52:09 PM PDT by Stirner
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To: redlipstick
RE:I assume Mr. Roed-Larsen didn't visit New York last fall.
 
I don't know about that but it wouldn't surprize me if he was flat out making stuff up.
And if it is true it wouldn't surprize me if, when the evacuation order was given, these savages went and locked a few token women and children in rooms inside these buildings just to generate a body count for sympathy's sake.
19 posted on 04/18/2002 4:52:26 PM PDT by tomakaze
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To: wotan
Nothing so quiet and peaceful as a dead Palestinian. Right, Ariel?

Genocide is cute as long as it happens to the other team, eh? SICK.
20 posted on 04/18/2002 4:54:39 PM PDT by Belial
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