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To: ctdonath2
Airplanes do not fly straight & level into the center of tall buildings on clear sunny days. They just don't.

Right. If your control problems are so bad that you cannot avoid a clearly visible tall building, then you are not going to be flying straight and level either.

For this to have happened by accident, ALL controls would have to have been out. Otherwise the plane could have been crabbed or banked enough to avoid the building. If the plane had two engines, you could even have avoided the building simply by changing throttle controls.

To say a plane hit the most prominent building in that part of Italy, straight on, straight and level, with plenty of visibility, by accident is pure BS.

Some will say it is still possible this was a freak accident. Since anything can be possible if you accept high enough odds, I will say your odds of winning the lottery, twice, are better. If you want to find a benign explanation, pilot suicide for personal reasons is your best bet (which should not be ruled out).

Remember, if the public can be made to believe that it was an accident, then the terrorists will have failed in a big part of their mission: Cause terror.

If YOU were in charge, would you help the terrorists succeed, or would YOU try to deny them the result they crave. It is obvious what is going on.

BTW: Don't give me any of that "you are not an expert" crapola. I've spent lots of time flying in the Air Force, and what I just posted is obvious to anyone who knows how to fly.

662 posted on 04/18/2002 10:49:25 AM PDT by EternalHope
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To: EternalHope
How about what govts. crave? The illusion that they can protect us from every security threat all the time.
676 posted on 04/18/2002 10:53:22 AM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: EternalHope
If YOU were in charge, would you help the terrorists succeed, or would YOU try to deny them the result they crave. It is obvious what is going on.

I think there's a very good chance this was a most unusual accident, although I'm not ready to say it was NOT a terrorist act. But what you say makes a lot of sense and might explain what's going on. If I were in charge, you are correct, I would do my utmost to foil the terrorists' plans.

682 posted on 04/18/2002 10:54:37 AM PDT by twigs
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To: EternalHope
I agree with you completely. Smoke in the cockpit is the only thing I can think of. Any pilots on this thread that think you would have hit this building dead center, full throttle, straight and level on a clear day. Sound off.
689 posted on 04/18/2002 10:55:19 AM PDT by bluecollarman
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To: EternalHope
BTW: Don't give me any of that "you are not an expert" crapola. I've spent lots of time flying in the Air Force, and what I just posted is obvious to anyone who knows how to fly.

Which will make you look just that much more or a "Somebody who doesn't know what he's talking about" when this DOES turn out to be an accident! I spent lots of time flying on American Airlines, but that doesn't make me an expert!

694 posted on 04/18/2002 10:56:23 AM PDT by Bommer
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To: EternalHope
If you want to find a benign explanation, pilot suicide for personal reasons is your best bet (which should not be ruled out).

Excellent points, all, beyond the snip above. I'm having a tough time believing that it is an accident as well.

I don't know much about air traffic control, but are records kept about when and where the plane changed directions? That's the evidence I'm most interested in at this point.

703 posted on 04/18/2002 10:58:06 AM PDT by Snake65
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To: EternalHope
I've spent lots of time flying in the Air Force, and what I just posted is obvious to anyone who knows how to fly.

How many hours and in what MDS?

736 posted on 04/18/2002 11:04:55 AM PDT by TankerKC
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To: EternalHope
If I was in the govt., I admit I would be very tempted to lie and call it an accident if it was just one plane. Better to prevent panic than let the people know the truth and freak.
781 posted on 04/18/2002 11:14:27 AM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: EternalHope
If YOU were in charge, would you help the terrorists succeed, or would YOU try to deny them the result they crave.

Yeah, but increasing terror "requires increasing government power". So, there's a motivation for the typical power-hungry government official to say it is a terrorist attack.

998 posted on 04/18/2002 12:25:26 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: EternalHope
>...pilot suicide for personal reasons is your best bet

In the absence of anything better at this time, that is the most likely explanation.

1,003 posted on 04/18/2002 12:28:46 PM PDT by LostTribe
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