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SKYSCRAPER CRASH IN MILAN ITALY
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Posted on 04/18/2002 9:06:38 AM PDT by Bommer

Just reported that a small engine plane crashed into a Skyscraper in Milan Italy


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To: Bommer
ITS AN ACCIDENT! REPEAT, AN ACCIDENT!!!
How do you know? There are far too many inconsistencies. Whether or not it was terrorism, it at the very least indicates a pilot with serious psychological problems. I can't think of any reason for a competent pilot to slam into a building even with engine trouble.
541 posted on 04/18/2002 10:30:20 AM PDT by Utopia
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To: Bommer
That was a B-25 at night in heavy fog, not 6 P.M. with a clear blue sky. Apples and oranges.
542 posted on 04/18/2002 10:30:23 AM PDT by StriperSniper
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I in no way said this accident was funny. Any loss of life is a tragedy. What is funny is the way you guys took a plane crash and turned into a geriatric attack on western civilization.
543 posted on 04/18/2002 10:30:36 AM PDT by Delbert
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To: Bommer
Just an observation.

A plane crashing into a house is alot different than a plane crashing into a skyscraper.

544 posted on 04/18/2002 10:30:45 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Utopia
amen.
545 posted on 04/18/2002 10:31:18 AM PDT by bandlength
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To: ecomcon
Planes do crash into buildings sometimes. Name some.


A U.S. Army Air Forces B-25 crashed into the 79th floor of the Empire State Building in New York in heavy fog. The crash killed both crew members and eleven people in the building. (July 28, 1945)

546 posted on 04/18/2002 10:31:26 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: Joe Hadenuf

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547 posted on 04/18/2002 10:31:26 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: codebreaker; All
I wished people here would stop making speculations and instead use logic. Of course I can understand that at first a terrosim act comes to mind. But if you think about it would a 'suicide bomber' choose a time to crash a plane in a building when it was empty to avoid killing innocent people? I don't think so
548 posted on 04/18/2002 10:31:31 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Utopia
Reports now stating many have died and lots of injured.
549 posted on 04/18/2002 10:31:34 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Is that maximum damage physics/weight wise, the 25th floor of 30...
550 posted on 04/18/2002 10:31:39 AM PDT by codebreaker
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To: ctdonath2
You challenge was to name one, not currcumvent the circumstances! It can happen in good or bad weather. If he lost hydrolics or had a major heart attack it sure as hell can happen on a sunny day. The pilot is reported to be 70 years old BTW.
551 posted on 04/18/2002 10:31:40 AM PDT by Bommer
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To: Mo1;lucas1
Nope the guy was Swiss - not an arab at all -

And the shoe bomber guy was a Brit ..

No one has mentioned the possibility yet that the manifested 70 year old Swiss pilot was not at the controls for the crash.

If (all speculation here) he was going up for a scheduled solo flight, it would be easy for a ground crew/terrorist to hide in the plane and take it over in the air. That would also explain the 6pm strike: the schedule was a matter of opportunism in this (speculative) scenario.

552 posted on 04/18/2002 10:31:52 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Lucas1
While I agree that it is silly how every incident is viewed by some as either OBL, anthrax/smallpox/botulism, or a sign of the Apocalypse, speculation that this is terrorism is CERTAINLY reasonable. Can you cite an example of a plane crashing into a skyscraper before 9/11? The odds of a plane, even with engine trouble, crashing into a tall building is astronomical, considering how very, very little of the overall landscape a single building takes up. And then to hit it in the center. The only reasonable explanation I've heard so far is that the pilot was trying to land on a wide street nearby.
553 posted on 04/18/2002 10:32:19 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Bommer
So, a 70-year old man, who we would assume has been flying for a very long time, and maybe has taken this trip many, many times, just all of the sudden "forgets" there is a building there?

May I also mention that there was a HUGE train station nearby where people would have been going to?

It may very well be an accident. But it may very well not have been an accident.

555 posted on 04/18/2002 10:32:50 AM PDT by DJ88
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To: Bommer
News is reporting that the pilot sent a message to control tower saying he was having problems navigating the plane and sent out an SOS - so there you have it - it was a very freak accident. Not a terrorist attack of any form. It happens - rare but it happens
556 posted on 04/18/2002 10:32:53 AM PDT by Lucas1
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To: Almondjoy
Something made a big enough explosion to blow out both sides of a concrete skyscraper. Unless the plane(a small one supposedly) was full of fuel at the time you have to think it was something else.
557 posted on 04/18/2002 10:33:06 AM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Lazamataz
Twenty lire bet that the pilot was of Arab extraction or is a practicing Muslim.

Either that, or he was "allergic" to his acne medicine.

558 posted on 04/18/2002 10:33:23 AM PDT by betty boop
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I'm still worried about the strucural integrity of the building with a full tank of fuel on that plane.
559 posted on 04/18/2002 10:33:27 AM PDT by codebreaker
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Why yes I can...it happened in Canada a few years ago - a hospital - plane had problems with navigation and crashed into the building. It happens. Take the tin hats off and move onto the next story. This was an accident.
560 posted on 04/18/2002 10:33:49 AM PDT by Lucas1
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