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To: Gerfang
After examining the half truths and quotes out of context presented on this thread, then letting the group speak for itself, it’s pretty clear that smear tactics were used. I’m glad the Board saw through them, and I’m glad GLSEN won the day.

You've got the facts as best as they can be obtained via the net here. What they did elsewhere is what they will most likely attempt in Broward. We can only judge them by past behavior, and that record has been dismal.

We are witnessing the effects of homosexuals in leadership/power positions now with the travesty occuring in the Catholic Church. Is there any reason to believe that they won't end up causing the same problems here?

What we have witnessed is a small group of people who support abhorrent behavior now in a position to indoctrinate youth in a public forum subsidized by Broward County tax payers.

Once again, a minority of liberals has dictated their beliefs over the majority who stand firmly against it.

What you've seen on the GLSEN site is nothing compared to what was there before they lost the vote in October. They cleaned up the site so that people who are new to the issue would not be outraged at what they intend to do.

I will say it again. Attempting to inflict behavior on children which is contrary to that which the parents have raised them by can not be tolerated. This is not over by a long shot.

179 posted on 04/23/2002 4:17:48 PM PDT by Caipirabob
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To: Yakboy
The goal of this organization is to counter institutionalized bigotry against gays and lesbians or those perceived to be gays or lesbians in the public schools. I support that goal. If some in the organization act inappropriately, they should be disciplined and removed.

We are witnessing the effects of homosexuals in leadership/power positions now with the travesty occuring in the Catholic Church. Is there any reason to believe that they won't end up causing the same problems here?

No. You are witnessing the results of gay men who were never meant to be priests. They joined the Clergy in a desperate gambit to reconcile their sexual orientation with the expectations of their culture. The results are predictably a disaster. IMHO heterosexual men in similar circumstances would produce the same results. Human beings under pressure make bad choices. But that is a topic for another thread.

What we have witnessed is a small group of people who support abhorrent behavior…

So this isn’t about children, this is about punishing sin. I was unaware I was in the presence of a deity. Forgive me for criticizing your divine plan to punish effeminate looking teen-agers by letting bullies beat the crap out of them.

…now in a position to indoctrinate youth in a public forum subsidized by Broward County tax payers.

Once again, teachers – not students - can get information from GLSEN. How does advocating a course of action to a teacher “indoctrinate youth”?

Once again, a minority of liberals has dictated their beliefs over the majority who stand firmly against it.

It was a majority vote by a majority elected School Board. It will assuredly be challenged in court to insure the rights of the minority (that would be your side) are not infringed. That’s the American system.

What you've seen on the GLSEN site is nothing compared to what was there before they lost the vote in October. They cleaned up the site so that people who are new to the issue would not be outraged at what they intend to do.

Well, if they cleaned up their act and got rid of those who usurp parental rights, then they’re ok in my book.

I will say it again. Attempting to inflict behavior on children which is contrary to that which the parents have raised them by can not be tolerated. This is not over by a long shot.

And you’re completely wrong. If that behavior involves violating the rights of other student (i.e. gay bashing) then the school has both the right and the responsibility to insure the influence of the parent is countered and the student’s behavior is corrected. Wanna tell your kids that homosexuality is sinful? No problem. Wanna raise your kids with a faith that is intolerant of gays? No problem either. But if you want to give your kid a big atta-boy ‘cause he beat up some gay (or precieved gay) kid at school then we have a problem because you are an unfit parent.

And that is what this is really all about.

181 posted on 04/23/2002 5:12:18 PM PDT by Gerfang
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