(D) Wellstone in trouble in Minn Senate Race

Didn't Wellstone announce he wasn't going to run for another term and then reneged?...........Just like a Democrat Socialist..........say one thing and do another.......I PRAY he is defeated..........He is such a pompous prick and thinks he is a GREAT ORATOR, flaying his arms around and really signifies NOTHING!!

So Coleman is no more conservative than Wellstone? He just ran as a 'Pubbie because the Dims wouldn't support him?

Just what we need, another Yankee RINO!

OTOH, anything that keeps the Dashhole out of the leadership is fine with me.

Times they are a changing Hubert H. Humphrey III finished 3rd in the last governors race. Governor goofy is the transition from the old democrat party in MN

Yes. and Hugh Hewitt has a sound bite of Wellstone saying just that.

Hugh has promised to play this sound bite on his show 1000 times between now and November.

hey ho hey ho, Waldo Welfare's gotta go.

Go NORM go!

Earlier this month, national Republicans released their own poll of Minnesota voters showing Coleman ahead, 49 percent to 42 percent.

Why get excited over this? All these Rep's have sold us out over the upcoming increase in govt. spending.

Great web site!

I've SEEN the "Big Picture" and it looks like THIS:

CALL GEPHARDT/DASCHLE UNREALTY, EXCLUSIVE AGENTS

THANKS BUT NO THANKS!

At least Dasshole ADMITS he's a freaking statist. Lott's undercover -- until (with precious few exceptions) it's time to vote!

Yes that is true. Sentor Welfare also said he would not take out of state contributions. In 1998 he came out here to Hollyweird to a money grab hosted by B.S. and the gang so he lied on both counts.. I just wished when he was running the other two times that that puke green bus would have thrown a rod and could never been fixed. so glad I left.

yeah I'm sick of Liberal congressmen barring conservative judges from the courts

WRONG!

If we don't get good judges on the courts, the Constitution will never be respected. You can send a vegetable to the Senate, but make sure it's a Republican vegetable so Bush's appointments make it through.

Once they have a real chance--with the White House, House, Senate--if they blow it, I'll mutiny, but not yet.

>> Can someone go there -- then come back and tell me WHAT this guy stands for -- besides ELECTION to the Senate?

Sure.

" I support charter schools, standardized student testing, and requiring teachers to pass competency tests in their subjects."
I"'ll fight for free and fair trade and to open new markets. I'll support federal programs that give Minnesota farmers a fair price for what they produce."
"I oppose regional dairy compacts and federal policies that disadvantage Minnesota's dairy farmers. "[I believe] ugrading our state's bridges, highways, and waterways is essential to expanding the marketplace for Minnesota’s farm products."
As mayor of St. Paul I'm proud that the Gopher State Ethanol plant on West Seventh Street is buying three million bushels of Minnesota corn each year Bring Honesty and Integrity Back to Government ...Pushing bitter partisanship aside, in a straightforward, honest way we could get these important things done. As mayor, I pledged to revitalize my city, and I've done it. As U.S. Senator, I'll keep my promises - Minnesotans deserve no less from their elected representatives.

"As Mayor he kept his commitment to a zero percent increase in the property tax levy for seven years in a row, and Saint Paul just recently received its first ‘AAA’ bond rating...unprecedented in the city’s history. The value of taxable property in the core downtown has more than doubled, and every neighborhood has seen an increase in property value.
Norm has made public safety a priority while serving as Mayor, as well. By adding 40 more police officers and working with neighborhoods, the City has expanded community-based policing. The result has been a drop in the violent crime rate since 1993
By working closely with Superintendent Patricia Harvey, together they have forged exemplary models of choice and parental involvement thru traditional public school programs, as well as innovative charter schools. As home to the nation’s first charter school, Norm has championed education reform, leading an initiative to bring 20 new charter schools to Saint Paul.
Norm has created a national model for building public/private partnerships. He brought together the top 20 CEO’s of the region to create the Capital City Partnership which is committed to promoting, marketing and developing Saint Paul. In January 2001, Norm received the United States Conference of Mayor’s Award of Excellence in Public/Private Partnerships.
Norm recently served as Chair of the George W. Bush campaign in Minnesota
"Coleman campaigned Wednesday in Red Wing and readily acknowledged that he and Wellstone - his opponent in November - are miles apart in political philosophy.
[If elected] in many instances the senators' votes [Coleman and Dayton's] would cancel each other. That was often the case when Minnesotans were represented by Republican Rod Grams and Wellstone - two senators frequently at opposite extremes. Wellstone and Dayton can't get much farther left on the political spectrum. The Congressional Quarterly study showed that Dayton sided with his party's positions more than 99 percent of the time in 2001. The second study, based on preliminary rankings by Americans for Democratic Action, gave Dayton a "liberal quotient" of 100 based on his voting record.
Dayton's record practically mirrors that of Wellstone. Indeed, Wellstone and Dayton ranked first and second, respectively, in opposing Presidnet Bush's positions last year.
"[Coleman] got across his message that he pledged to reduce taxes, but he never let Minnesotans know his accomplishments.
In that regard, Coleman has much to boast about in his record as St. Paul mayor - revitalization of downtown and surrounding neighborhoods, no increase in taxes for eight years, the first-ever AAA bond rating for the city, landing an NHL franchise.
The record is that much more impressive given the fact that Coleman governed as a Republican mayor in a Democratic stronghold."
--Editorial: Coleman offers a voice Red Wing Eagle - January 24, 2002 [link to article on Coleman's website]
"Moderate, pro-choice Republicans believe that Coleman's pro-life views will make him an ineffective statewide candidate...
[In]...the April 21 issue, the editors [all liberals] dissect Coleman's candidacy and its ramifications. We agree with much of what they said particularly the assertion that Coleman may now be too closely tied to the White House and its positions on issues like the environment and energy
---How Vulnerable is Wellstone? "Clearly Democratic Sen. Paul Wellstone is the most vulnerable incumbent of his party." The Cook Political [FULL ARTICLE QUOTED ON COLEMAN'S WEBSITE]

So, from his website, I have CONFIRMED that Coleman is:
--a huge supporter of charter schools (and [probably vouchers)
-- supports requiring teachers to pass competency tests in their subjects.
-- a centrist on trade issues (supports free trade in some circumstances, fair trade in others)
--strongly opposes the Jim Jeffords' regional dairy compacts (cartel) and other buerucratic federal policies interfering with farmers (so-called "conservative" 'RATs like Zell Miller are to the LEFT of Coleman on that issue)
--believes in Ethanol plants to market more farm products from Minnesota (opposed by guys like John McCain)
--has committeed and has always kept his commitment to a zero percent increase in property taxes
--big supporter of defense, millitary, and police upgrading
-- works constantly to expand public/private partnerships, and return power to the people instead of the government.
--ACKNOWLEDGES rumors that he will vote exactly the OPPOSITE of ultra-liberal MN Senator Dayton (as well as his opponent Wellstone)
--pledged to CUT taxes if elected (obviously supported the Bush tax cut)
--Has solid pro-life views. So much so that even "moderate" Republicans are running around complaining about it.
--Has scared liberal's stiff by impling he will support the Bush white house Energy/Enviro policies in LOCKSTEP (that includes drilling in ANWR, the gulf of mexico, etc.)

>> how is this guy different from Wellstone? I smell another RINO

I was not aware that Paul Wellstone is pro-life, pro-ANWR, pro-tax cuts, anti-property tax, pro-school vouchers, anti-government expansion like Coleman. If Mayor Coleman is your idea of a RINO (even though he hates RINOs like Jeffords), I'd hate to see your idea of a conservative. Perhaps you can explain why guys like Senator Nelson (D-Neb.) and Senator Miller (D-Ga.) can have views TO THE LEFT of Coleman and still managed to have a bunch of freepers praise them for being so "conservative".

Ironically the best thing that ever happened to the GOP in Minnesota may have come from an Independent. Jesse Ventura is pretty much a libertarian with extreme anti-gun control views and belief in small government. If he is popular, and he is vocal with his views, he could swing some moderates over to the repub side.

SWEET!

From your description of Coleman, it seems he would be a voters' dream............(SARCASM)

Question - If Norm wins and the senate goes Republican - Does Lott(barf) come back as senate leader??

So far, no one on this thread has mentioned that Coleman is far better looking than Wellstone: tall, slim, youthful, with a nice smile. Sorry to say it, but that is worth a big bump among the female voters.

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The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position. Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc.

They really don't have a clue. Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right. There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.

When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governemnts in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds. Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coaltions. They are too small. It is the centerist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail. But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centerist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.

This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.

When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default. Then the Democrts thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwaters greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.

If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society". LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.

To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Repulicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails. Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has.

One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign. Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus is you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate. If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.

Wellstone has just one strategy. That is to cost the Republican candidtate his base. He knows the Republican candidate has enough center to defeat him. But if the Rupublican base can be made to sit on its hands or protest vote then Wellestone can prevail.

In politics it is called using wedge issues. The right has a very large number of wedgeable members. The left really enjoys driving the wedge to make them do things counter productive to their goals.

When you talk to people who fall for negative campaigning,they always tell you that when the right guy comes along to sell the right views, his side will prevail.

You keep saying to yourself that people can't be that dumb.... but experience prooves that they are.

This picture should be mass mailed to every thinking voter in the state of MN and let this wimp know it's time to GO!

Perhaps the Coleman(R) Exponent(TM) Backpack should be sent to 'Truth-Term Limited' Wellstone as a 'parting gift'.