Greeks, Turks and Bulgarians, are they related?

http://www.florina.org/html/books/kinship/kinship.html | Dr. George Nakratzas

[Spar]

Did you use a crystal ball to get all that? Tarot cards would get more accurate results than those of that DNA survey you posted. I am sure all Asiatic Steppe nomads like the Turks come from Ethiopia all the time, like your linked DNA report shows.

By the way Lions, you invited me to this conversation, remember. When I come I bring results.

cptVimes, I did not mean to get you involved in anything your not into.

[Lions]

Tarot cards would get more accurate results than those of that DNA survey you posted.

Oh, I see......so when you post silly pictures that make no absolute sense, its OK, but when I post a report that was conducted in Spain and supported by all organisations throughout europe, to you its crap.

WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE ME FRIEND. THERE ARE A FEW OF YOU IN THIS WORLD AND YOU HAVE NO SUPPORT FROM ANYONE THAT HAS EVEN THE SLIGHTEST EDUCATION ON BALKANS HISTORY

[Spar]

YOU HAVE NO SUPPORT FROM ANYONE THAT HAS EVEN THE SLIGHTEST EDUCATION ON BALKANS HISTORY

Oh? Really?

Legendary historian Nicholas Hammond's interview can be read here @ Who were the Macedonians ? (Background to todays conflict)

[mamelukesabre]

I see a KIND of similarity, but these two photos are certainly not the same race. They are both white males with brown hair and similarly shaped heads. That is where the similiarities end.

There seems to exists a noticeable amount of racial and religious bigotry in the middle east towards chinese, japanes, and other people of oriental persuasion. The orientals seem to be viewed as inferior in every way(cultural, religious, genetic, education, etc). I wonder if there may be a connection here with why muslims might find it difficult to hear europeans talk about the origins of the turkic race and persian race....just a hunch.

Maybe I'm wrong though.

I've also noticed that some Arabs seem to show a certain amount of contempt for the turks and the persians and especially asian indian. Yet they(the arabs) seem to warm up to the italians quite readily, as do many other ethnic peoples. Why this is so is a mystery to me.

[Lions]

YOU HAVE NO SUPPORT FROM ANYONE THAT HAS EVEN THE SLIGHTEST EDUCATION ON BALKANS HISTORY

Dr Grammenos, oh I see where the propaganda comes from.

Check this LINK and select the SCHOLARS option and you will be amazed at what the ancient greeks thought of the Macedonians, they did not think of them as brothers and thats for sure.

Once again you prove to be a fool with no backbone to your theories. Your ideas are isolated on this planet.

[Lions]

I see a KIND of similarity, but these two photos are certainly not the same race. They are both white males with brown hair and similarly shaped heads. That is where the similiarities end.

Just ignore spar, he is doing his best to prove to the scientific and educated world that the Macedonians and the Turks are exactly the same race. Just look at those 2 pictures he has posted. I dont know where he gets his ideas from but like the old saying goes, those people that dislike other qualities in others, show that they are exactly what they dislike.

[Spar]

All I'm provong is that the Turks and Bulgars before they came West into Europe were an Central Asiatic Mongolian related people. In fact the historic word for a Bulgarian tribal chief beofre they converted to the Slavic language and custom was "Khan".

[cptVimes]

Just ignore spar, he is doing his best to prove to the scientific and educated world that the Macedonians and the Turks are exactly the same race. Just look at those 2 pictures he has posted. I dont know where he gets his ideas from but like the old saying goes, those people that dislike other qualities in others, show that they are exactly what they dislike.

let’s just say that the present population in the Balkans is the product of the Central Asian Nomadic migrations and the population that lived in the areas. Everyone should be happy then, I think.

[cptVimes]

All I'm provong is that the Turks and Bulgars before they came West into Europe were an Central Asiatic Mongolian related people. In fact the historic word for a Bulgarian tribal chief beofre they converted to the Slavic language and custom was "Khan".

To make things even more interesting there are some words with Persian origin in the old Bulgarian language.

[Lions]

In fact the historic word for a Bulgarian tribal chief beofre they converted to the Slavic language and custom was "Khan".

And how about TSAR. This word is used amongst many nations throughout the world. So what you are saying is that all these nations are all related???????

The Greeks and the Turks use the word BAKLAVA for a certain type of food. So according to your theory, bost races must be related. Maybe you are right!!!!!!

[Spar]

Tsar was used after the Bulgarians were Slavicized. Before that it was Khan. Its easy enough to look up. The Bulagrians spoke a Turkic language before they arrived into the Balkans.

The fact that you question this well known fact makes me think that you do not have any working knowladge in these matters.

[eleni121]

Spar, If I were you I wouldn't bother too much with the Bulgaro Slavics and their Turk "colleagues". I am constantly amazed by the sheer ignorance by people like Liyons and Scarpia and Turks 1 and 2 whose only sources are the ones they and their fellow irridentists create and what they have learned in their socialist and propaganda controlled schools. They are a hoot!

I don't think they have ever bothered to pick up a book or scholarly article in a library. They live and breathe on the Net and create self fulfilling websites...

[eleni121]

I see you are now posting stuff from the Trotskyite/Chomskyite Nakratzas.

[cptVimes]

Tsar was used after the Bulgarians were Slavicized. Before that it was Khan. Its easy enough to look up. The Bulagrians spoke a Turkic language before they arrived into the Balkans.

Tsar is not a Slavic word, it comes from Caesar, the Slavic equivalent would be kniaz not surpassingly similar to khan. The Bulgarian and Russian use of the world tsar didn’t start until after the conversion.

[Lions]

Tsar was used after the Bulgarians were Slavicized

I was refering to not only the Bulgarians but other nations throughout the world. I did not question the fact as you think I did.

So this is what I gather from your theories. The Bulgarians are Turks, the Macedonians are Bulgarian, so that will mean, according to your theory on the movement of man , the Greeks then must be Turkish. That will then geographically make a full circle. And also the Greeks work BAKLAVA is infact a Turkish word. It looks like you are correct!!!!!

[Lions]

Tsar is not a Slavic word, it comes from Caesar, the Slavic equivalent would be kniaz not surpassingly similar to khan.

Dont worry about Spar, he is full of it. He belongs to an isolated type in this world. His theories are somewhat enjoying to read at times and bear no credibility and thats where it ends.

[Lions]

see you are now posting stuff from the Trotskyite/Chomskyite Nakratzas.

Is this a Turkish word you have posted above?????? can you please converted it to English, where everyone can understand

[Lions]

Spar, If I were you I wouldn't bother too much with the Bulgaro Slavics and their Turk "colleagues

Here is some education for YOU

[Spar]

The Macedonians are a Hellenic origin tribes that gave their name to a geographic region. Bulgarians and Serbs and others live within this geographic region but are not nor have they ever been true ethnic Macedonians.

[Lions]

fellow irridentists create and what they have learned in their socialist and propaganda controlled schools

Oh....I see and this map is created by one of those people that come from socialist propaganda controlled schools as well is it!!!!!!!!!!

OOPPS, i'm sorry, I thought that Macedonia was part of greece, well not according to this map which was drawn up 2 hundred years ago......HHHMMMMMMM I just dont get it.