Posted on 04/15/2002 7:52:27 AM PDT by browardchad
A couple of items (yes, anecdotal, but life IS anecdotal) to illustrate the disconnect:
1. My wife watched from the route of the Boston marathon yesterday in a blue-collar/middle-class neighborhood that's reliably demoRat leaning. When the squad of Brit artillerymen jogged through, fatigues and all and carrying US and UK flags, apparently, the crowd "went wild" with their cheering. The crowd too was festooned with Red, White 'n' blue.
2. I read here yesterday of the increasing numbers of visitors to Ground Zero genuinely paying their respects.
3. GWB's approval numbers are still floating beyond the comprehension of the chattering classes.
The bottom line? IMHO the American People are anxious for GWB to commit fully to our jihad (apparently this is the literal translation of "struggle" - why not hijack their crummy language?). Our "surprising" support for our only true ally in the ME is another facet of this.
I think collectively, a lot of us understand that after 8 years of the Klintoon party some kind of hangover is approaching - not so much "Morning in America" as "the morning after..."
Therefore, what exactly do we need to do to get this message over to GWB? How much noise has to be made to get him to do what is necessary (as opposed to politically possible)?. As the author states, action should not wait for a much uglier wound to be inflicted on us at Baghdad/Tehran/OBL's timetable.
From Bush Embraces Clintonian Role Of Being Fund-Raiser-in-Chief
Clinton watched the polls, but that didnt have much affect on his actions just on how he spun them.
Some of the answer to the why is here @ BIN LADEN GATE (Please take the time to read all the linked articles attached there-It's worth it).
Did ya catch that?
Some of the answer to the why is here @ BIN LADEN GATE (Please take the time to read all the linked articles attached there-It's worth it).I've only read part of the information you linked to but it is quite disturbing.
I believed then, and still believe today, that the U.S. was right in stopping, albeit belatedly, the killing of Bosnian Muslims by Bosnian Serbs. Also believe it was right to let the Bosnian republic, like the Croats and the Slowenes, become independent, with Sarajevo as the capital.
But I feel the West was played for suckers big-time by the KLA. Wasn't the idea, allegedly, to return control of Kosovo to the Serbs once they elected a democratic government? Now the Albanians are running the place as if it belonged to them alone already, and not a peep out of the Western media.
Where is Madeline Albright today, she had such a big mouth then?
The object of our intervention in Kosovo was not to force the Serbs to hold elections, but to give the region to the Albanians. Madeleine Albright is silent as to what the aftermath is, simply and solely because she duplicitously "negotiated" an accord that no sovereign nation could accept (the Ramboullet Accords), with the knowledge that it would give the Clinton administration cover for the intervention, and told the Albanians as much beforehand.
I asked then, and still ask, the following question:
If a "Greater Serbia" is so abhorrent and unacceptable to the United States, why does it turn a blind eye to "Greater Albania"?
the infowarrior
What did the SEC, DEA and IRS have to do with 9/11?
foreverfree
DEA: responsible for instructing the airlines in questioning 'suspicious' passengers who are traveling airplanes with no luggage.
IRS: responsible for tracking large cash transfers into the United States.
They all failed; no one resigned; they blamed the baggage checkers.
This really bothers me too.
Two particular reasons why I am bothered:
Unlike Bosnian Muslims, the Kosovar Albanians are completely dissimilar, as an ethnic group, from their neighbors the Serbs, Macedonians, Montenegrines etc. While it is very difficult to tell apart a Bosnian Muslim immigrant to western Europe from a Croat or a Serb, either by looks, by language, or work habits / lifestyle, the Kosovar immigrants are heavily engaged in crime, from 3-card monte sidewalk games to drug running and worse.
More troubling, Saudis have been spending heavily in both Bosnia and Kosovo to propagate their hateful Wahhabist brand of Islam. At this time, Bosnian Muslims appear willing to take the money but not to adopt the Saudi-style extremism. (According to news accounts in the mainstream media, which is all I have to go by at the moment.) In the Kosovo, which ironically now seems to have been ethnically cleansed of non-Albanians with the (intentional?) assistance of the Clinton administration, the Albanians are reportedly easy prey for Saudi preachers of hate.
Finally, I have come to the conclusion - based not only on Saudi involvement in the Balkans but also in Israel, Kashmir, Indonesia and throughout the world - that the House of Saud is the true Nexus of Evil confronting us, more so even than Saddam Hussein. Starting with this post, I will be adding the same sign-off line to each and every one of my posts until we have acted decisively to remove this source of evil.
Seize the Oil Fields. Destroy the House of Saud.
Serbs ID items of relatives killed in Kosovo "1,300 Serbs have been reported missing since NATO"
There is some truth in that statement, but the reality is a bit more complex than that. The House of Saud is corrupt, make no mistake, but the only other "power that is" within the country are the radical Wahabbi clerics.
The situation within the kingdom of Saudi Arabia is closely analogous to pre-revolutionary Iran. The House of Saud, for all its faults, warts, even running sores have attempted to bring their countrymen into the 20th century, but with only limited success. Because of their position of "Protectors of the Holy Place", the House of Saud must walk a tightrope when dealing with them, and many in the West fail to understand this.
For example, the West considers the Saudi form of capital punishment by beheading, publicly in the main square to be barbaric, but it was not so very long ago, that I read in an official U S Army information book, in preparation for my military tour of the country in 1980, that the punishment for the crime of highway robbery in the kingdom was death by crucifixion (the book was dated 1965, IIRC)...
It was the House of Saud who changed that little groteque barbarism, and instituted only one form of capital punishment, for any capital crime. Chnge comes but slowly there, and the House of Saud has been able to push only so far against the radical clerics, being itself not of one mind...
the infowarrior
For a contrarian view, you may want to read the peace plan proposed by Lowell Ponte at www.frontpagemag.com.
Excerpt:
Next, Saudi Arabia under the Ponte Plan would be partitioned. Its oil-saturated eastern sands and central regions would become the Kingdom of Saudi. Its western highlands, including the verdant farmlands of Asir and Islams holy cities of Mecca and Medina, would become a new country, the neutral and demilitarized Theocracy of Allahistan.
While I personally think the House of Saud should be deposed altogether, I think it is an interesting proposal.
Seize the Oil Fields. Destroy the House of Saud.
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