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American Indians Aren t Like Palestinians
Front Page Magazine ^ | 04/09/02 | David A Yeagley

Posted on 04/12/2002 9:25:08 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton

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1 posted on 04/12/2002 9:25:08 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton
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To: Kevin Curry
MANY PEOPLE SEE A SIMILARITY BETWEEN American Indians and today’s Palestinians.

Miss Cleo, eat your heart out.

Can I call them or what?

2 posted on 04/12/2002 9:27:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Andy from Beaverton
The Palestinian/Israeli issue is much more similar to the USA/illegal Mexican issue. Our infection point is our common border. Liberalism and a lack of political will allows the infection to flourish. And ironically, Democracy is the method which Mexicans...like Palestinians...exploit to gain political control. Palestinians have a much higher birth rate than Israelis (6:2.3). Their population is increasing faster that Israelis, so they will soon have a majority. The same tactic is being used in the Southwest USA. Look at the political scene of Texas and California. And those states are not exactly politically insignificant. It is a valid non violent political weapon. And it can happen if a country doesn't have the will to enforce it's laws and prevent it. Times are surely changing. This is not a judgement....but more an obsevation.
3 posted on 04/12/2002 9:58:26 AM PDT by hove
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To: Andy from Beaverton
While I agree with most of the essay (hard to argue against objective historical facts), there are a few caveats I would add. First, the jews were given the land by GOD (from the Mediterranean to the Euprates River). Second, no other nation has ever been wiped from their land only to appear 2,000 years later (1948) - this is evidence of Providence. Third, the Commanches as well as the majority of other native indian tribes were warlike and violent, and were not the innocent indiginous victims they are protrayed to be by revisionists. I could add much more, but this is enough for now.
4 posted on 04/12/2002 9:58:51 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: Andy from Beaverton
In the case of "Palestinian" Arabs, what is lost? Why their sense of humiliation?

This conflict cannot be understood until one understands that the hostility is based in RELIGION. Period. This is a religious war, and the sooner everyone succumbs to this truth, the better.

5 posted on 04/12/2002 10:00:47 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: Andy from Beaverton
"American Indians Aren’t Like Palestinians"

No, they're not. By and large, American Indians possessed honor.

6 posted on 04/12/2002 10:02:44 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: exmarine
First, the jews were given the land by GOD (from the Mediterranean to the Euprates River). Second, no other nation has ever been wiped from their land only to appear 2,000 years later (1948) - this is evidence of Providence.

well if the Big G says so I guess we all just better butter up and listen.

7 posted on 04/12/2002 10:11:57 AM PDT by gfactor
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To: gfactor
well if the Big G says so I guess we all just better butter up and listen.

That would be wise, but the arabs are not wise. There is other evidence of God's hand in this; namely, the miraculous victories by Israel over superior forces in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973. I hope all arabs take heed - ISAREAL WILL NEVER BE WIPED FROM THE LAND AGAIN. Any who do not take heed will continue suffer the grievous consequences for their hostile aggressions.

8 posted on 04/12/2002 10:28:30 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: Andy from Beaverton
Very interesting!
9 posted on 04/12/2002 10:44:44 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: exmarine
First, the jews were given the land by GOD (from the Mediterranean to the Euprates River).

Question: Is there any difference between Israelites & Jews?

10 posted on 04/12/2002 11:00:41 AM PDT by Dixie republican
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To: Andy from Beaverton
Hey, BUMP for a great commentary!

Err...just off the top of my head, can I take it that the Muslim terrorists are back to the "we not so different, you and me. You might even be one of our lost tribes" tactic on Native Americans again, and the author is rebutting the notion...again?

The Arab fanatics have been trying to recruit Native Americans, using this tactic, at least once a decade since the '60's. I'm wondering if they're at it again.

11 posted on 04/12/2002 11:07:57 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: exmarine
You are correct.
12 posted on 04/12/2002 11:08:16 AM PDT by Lopeover
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To: Dixie republican
How is a "nation" defined? A nation is defined by etiher geography, culture, religion or language. What defined jewishness during the diaspora? I believe it was culture and religious heritage. The jewish people never stopped their religious rituals. While many of today's Israelis are secular, they are jews by heritage, if not culture, religion or language. Of course, the geneology can no longer be traced accurately back to the time of the Roman destruction of Judah, but the very existence of the ancient heritage is evidence that it has been passed down through the generations. By the way, there never has been a way for arabs to prove they are descended from Ishamael, and in fact, there are strong arguments against that claim (ever ready Robert Morey?).
13 posted on 04/12/2002 11:29:59 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: exmarine
There is other evidence of God's hand in this; namely, the miraculous victories by Israel over superior forces in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973

if they're miraculous, then they wouldn't be studied as examples of strategic insight.

14 posted on 04/12/2002 11:31:30 AM PDT by gfactor
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To: exmarine
Aren't Jews supposed to be descended from Judah?
15 posted on 04/12/2002 12:40:04 PM PDT by Dixie republican
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To: exmarine
The genealogy can no longer be traced??? A study of DNA in Y-chromosomes showed genetic links among Jewish men of priestly descent. According to Jewish tradition these men are all descendants of Aaron. A fascinating piece of science.

See Priestly Gene Shared By Widely Dispersed Jews

and The Cohanim-DNA connection

For the technical details see Nature 394 (1998) 138-140 -- this is science not pseudoscience.

16 posted on 04/12/2002 1:01:50 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: exmarine
Of course, the geneology can no longer be traced accurately back to the time of the Roman destruction of Judah, but the very existence of the ancient heritage is evidence that it has been passed down through the generations.

Not exactly, there is a DNA marker shared by Jews claiming descent from Aaron, the brother of Moses.

17 posted on 04/12/2002 1:05:53 PM PDT by Alouette
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To: Andy from Beaverton
If the Palestinians are really like the American Indians,
then the best way to settle the dispute
is to let the Palestinians run all the casinos in Israel.
18 posted on 04/12/2002 1:07:41 PM PDT by tractorman
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To: Dixie republican
Aren't Jews supposed to be descended from Judah?

Jews are descended from all 12 tribes, not just Judah.

19 posted on 04/12/2002 1:43:46 PM PDT by exmarine
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To: Alouette
Thanks for the info.
20 posted on 04/12/2002 1:44:44 PM PDT by exmarine
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