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To: Carry_Okie

I brought up the ESA (and The Convention on Nature Protection (though I could not remember its name at the time as usual)) with a friend of mine this evening.

He prides himself on his knowledge of the constitution. He wanted to know why he should believe me when he had not heard of anyone (authority figures) ever bringing this up before.

So, as you might imagine, I had rough going until I went to a nearby computer and printed article VI of the constitution. I showed him how treaties become instantly superior to the constitution, subsuming it and — seemingly — our individual rights allegedly protected by the Bill of Rights.

So now that he sees that, he went to defend his next barricade against reality. He says he couldn’t believe that the Senate would pass any treaty that would bring harm to the country. (!!!) So that’s when I mentioned the ESA and the treaty whose name I couldn’t recall pushed through during WWII by Cordell Hull.

I told him I wouldn’t dare rely any further on my memory, as I didn’t want to give him a half-cocked accounting, and that I’d give him more info the next time we met.

I came home and found the passage in your book and then went and searched for it online; hence I’m here.

What I’d like to know is, in addition to the ESA, do you have a list of other treaties have been signed since 1942 and any new laws have been passed pursuant to the new treaty auspices?

This could be providential should I get sufficient and documented info to him. It’s not every day I can make an impression on someone who thinks he’s well-informed by in reality is not. You know how much emotion is invested in smart people’s ego and how hard it is to enlighten under such circumstances, don’t you?


106 posted on 05/10/2012 9:51:28 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (How humanitarian are "leaders" who back Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases?)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
You know how much emotion is invested in smart people’s ego and how hard it is to enlighten under such circumstances, don’t you?

Hmmmm, a brick just flew through my window. It has a note that says you looked everywhere. Characteristically, "everywhere" somehow (and habitually) didn't include my site, which just about figures. There you would have found:

Patrick Henry "Ratified": The Treaty Power, It's Perils and Portents

That article refers to this one:

Treaty Law: The Constitution’s original Trojan Horse

The first was built out of the second with new material added that is much better than the original at laying out the modern legal architecture. The latter (the original) has more examples of treaty power abuse. It is also considerably shorter.

Yet to understand the implications fully would require knowledge of the process of centralization of power over the last 140 years through examples that are pertinent today; i..e., who is funding it, how, and to what end. That is what is discussed in the first three links on that same articles page (the one to which you won't refer people directly). Of course, I'm sure you had that bookmarked so that you could pull it right up, but why bother when you could waste my time demanding that I supply it instead?

You haven't changed a bit because you still haven't repented.

107 posted on 05/10/2012 11:15:07 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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