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1 posted on 04/10/2002 8:44:12 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle
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2 posted on 04/10/2002 8:45:06 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle
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To: KrisKrinkle
Fabulous news. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.
3 posted on 04/10/2002 8:50:07 AM PDT by katana
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To: KrisKrinkle
Great news! Congratulations Ohio.

Now please send some of your folks here to Minnesota. We are soooo close to getting a "shall issue" here.
Hopefully after the elections this year, there will be enough Pro-2A folks voted in that we can get it done.

Congrats again, great job!

5 posted on 04/10/2002 9:07:33 AM PDT by Johnny Gage
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To: KrisKrinkle
Oh, oh! Now watch the murder rate soar in Ohio. (/sarcasm).
7 posted on 04/10/2002 9:13:18 AM PDT by Don Carlos
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To: KrisKrinkle
Not as broad a ruling as the article implies.

In Ohio it was always a defense to a CCW charge that you could have one IF you met certain criteria. Unfortunately you were forced into "proving" that you met the certain criteria AFTER you were charged with a CCW felony.

This case was about an attempt to say that even that certain criteria didn't apply and couldn't be used as a defense - even though it is in the statute. (this theory was a geographically localized opinion of a local authority).

Don't count your chickens too early.

It is still against the law in Ohio to CCW unless you fall into one of the specific criteria areas (if you don't have a CCW permit).....and then you can only use the law as a defense AFTER you have been charged with CCW.

This is NOT an unlimited right for CCW, nor does it change Ohio CCW permit law.

Spiral
(I try to follow this issue in a number of states...and overhype by CCW supporters often distorts the true nature of what each state allows)
8 posted on 04/10/2002 9:13:40 AM PDT by Spiral
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To: KrisKrinkle
Bump for CCW! Its time for Ohio to join the 33 Shall-Issue CCW states!

There are still 11 May-Issue states, and 6 No-Issue states (+ Wash.DC). Wisconsin was close to having it passed until the state senators played their procedural games to have the voted blocked. Colorado is close too, but its not a done deal. You Wisconsinites and Coloradoans better be hopping mad and get those anti-self-defense poli-critters be afraid of losing their jobs!!!


9 posted on 04/10/2002 9:19:49 AM PDT by Frohickey
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To: KrisKrinkle;DeadeyeDivision
By appealing this case to Ohio's top court the defendants risk a statewide loss.

Let's hope.

10 posted on 04/10/2002 9:22:46 AM PDT by MissTargets
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11 posted on 04/10/2002 9:32:14 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: KrisKrinkle
Wonderful news!
12 posted on 04/10/2002 9:39:09 AM PDT by Tauzero
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To: KrisKrinkle
How many citizens will have their convictions overturned due to this ruling (or should I say when the Ohio SC rules against the law)?
13 posted on 04/10/2002 9:40:02 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: Dan From Michigan; ChicagoFarmer; technochick99; usconservative; Redwing9; Mr. Magoo
Bump for great justice!

Can we use this ruling somehow as rationale in the great state of Illinois?

23 posted on 04/10/2002 11:18:34 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: KrisKrinkle
My advice for all those who care about the RKBA in Ohio: Get to work right now on forcing your legislature to draft a "shall issue" CCW bill; because its my bet that they will react to this ruling by creating a "may issue" law, and you will be right back where you started from. May Issue effetively means NO ISSUE; this is California's current situation - no one but the rich, powerful, and connected gets a CCW here.
24 posted on 04/10/2002 12:06:34 PM PDT by 45Auto
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I'm checking on the states that have no CCW laws and right now the folks of Nebraska are screwed because they don't have a Second Amendment. Illinois is worst because their's states "Subject to the police power, etc.

However, Kansas has one that reads:
Bear arms; armies. The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security; but standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, and shall not be tolerated, and the military shall be in strict subordination to the civil power.
Someone in Kansas can do the same thing that the people in Ohio did.

Still checking on the rest.

33 posted on 04/10/2002 1:22:25 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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Missouri, you're screwed:
Section 23. That the right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or when lawfully summoned in aid of the civil power, shall not be questioned; but this shall not justify the wearing of concealed weapons.
34 posted on 04/10/2002 1:28:01 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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