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JUAN MIGUEL GONZALEZ REQUESTED ASYLUM THREE TIMES AND WAS DENIED BY RENO!!!!
Local news | April 10, 2002 | Luis Gonzalez

Posted on 04/09/2002 9:20:18 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez

Miami local news have been reporting on the case of INS whistleblower Rick Ramirez.

Mr. Ramirez had a hearing Tuesday. April 9, where he denounced the actions of the Miami INS office, who under direct orders from then INS Commisioner Doris Meissner, destroyed and/or deleted all documents pertaining to the Elian Gonzalez case from their computers.

In a bomb shell announcement, Mr. Ramirez and his attorneys (Judicial Watch) have announced that at a press conference to be held Wednesday, April 10th. at 8:00 AM, they will produce proof that Juan MIguel Gonzalez was fully aware of Elisabet's trip to the US, that Juan Miguel wanted to leave Cuba as well, that the US government was fully aware that Juan Miguel Gonzalez was co-erced by Cuban agents, THAT HE ASKED FOR ASYLUM AT LEAST THREE TIMES WHILE HE WAS HERE, AND THAT EACH REQUEST WAS DENIED BY EX-AG, JANET RENO.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: castro; cuba; elian; reno
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To: Southack
I see your point, but I think it's waaaaaaay too early to try something like spreading a false story.
321 posted on 04/10/2002 5:52:02 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I thought you and Donato had a falling out?? Did I miss something??
322 posted on 04/10/2002 5:53:40 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I still remember all the FreeRepublic support for Clinton and Reno to send the kid back to Castro. I still don't get how they could support such a crime.
323 posted on 04/10/2002 5:59:37 PM PDT by bmwcyle
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Here's a partial chronology that I assembled at the time from available news stories.

November 22, 1999

Juan Miguel Gonzalez calls Miami relatives, tells them that ex-wife and son have left Cuba for Florida

November 25, 1999

Elian Gonzalez and two others are rescued at sea off the coast of Florida

November 29, 1999

Castro demands return of Elian Gonzalez to Cuba. Juan Miguel Gonzalez files complaint with United Nations for son’s return.

The Cuban foreign ministry has accused the United States of being responsible for the death of the boy's mother and nine others by encouraging illegal immigration from the Communist island with a policy that allows Cubans to stay in the United States once they reach shore.

State Department spokesman James Rubin called the Cuban allegations ``particularly outrageous and unconscionable.''

``Let's bear in mind that these people left Cuba because of the terrible economic, social, political, legal and security conditions that have led hundreds of thousands of Cuban citizens to seek to flee their homeland,'' Rubin said yesterday.

U.S. officials said the courts will ultimately have to decide whether Elian Gonzalez remains in Florida, where he is staying with relatives, or returns to Cuba where his father and the Cuban government are demanding his return.

December 9, 1999

In a reversal of policy, U.S. officials said the Justice Department rather than state courts in Florida will decide the future of Elian Gonzalez, who was rescued Thanksgiving Day after a small boat capsized killing his mother and 10 others.

December 10, 1999

In Miami, lawyers representing the boy, Elian Gonzalez, filed a petition for political asylum in the United States, which could extend his stay with his Miami relatives for at least 60 days. Roger Bernstein, one of the boy's five lawyers, said the Immigration and Naturalization Service has 60 days to respond to the petition and give the boy a hearing.

December 13, 1999

Six Cuban inmates frustrated with years of detention hold three hostages at the St. Martin Parish Correctional Center, a county jail in south-central Louisiana.

December 18, 1999

The St. Martin Parish, Louisiana standoff ended Dec. 18 after U.S. and Cuban officials agreed to send the hostage-takers back to Cuba.

December 20, 1999

Six of seven Cuban inmates involved in a hostage standoff last week in Louisiana were flown back to Cuba yesterday over the protests of state prosecutors, who say the men should have been put on trial for kidnapping.

Clinton administration officials insisted that the unusual accord with the government of Fidel Castro allowing the men to be returned to Cuba after they freed the hostages did not represent an advance in Cuban-American relations. Nor, they said, was there any tie between this agreement and any possible settlement of another immigration case, that of a 6-year-old Cuban boy rescued from the Atlantic Ocean off Florida last month who has become the subject of an international child-custody battle.

All of the Cubans who were repatriated had served their prison sentences and were being indefinitely warehoused in Louisiana by the immigration service because Cuba generally does not take back deportees. Havana agreed to the request to take them back to end the standoff in secret contacts between diplomats. Clinton administration officials said at the time it was not a trade-off for the return of Elian Gonzalez, the 6-year-old shipwreck survivor pulled from off the Florida coast Thanksgiving day.

The six who were returned were last seen shackled in the custody of Cuban officers in Havana. It is unknown what became of them.

January 5, 2000

A boy rescued at sea and brought to the United States must be returned to Cuba to live with his father, the Immigration and Naturalization Service said. ``This little boy, who has been through so much, belongs with his father,'' the INS commissioner, Doris Meissner, said. She said the 6-year-old boy, Elian Gonzalez, must be reunited with his father by January 14.

Meissner said immigration officials made their decision after two extensive interviews in Cuba with the boy's father, Juan Miguel Gonzalez. She said the father had provided vivid and extensive details of his bond with Elian, including family photographs and medical and school records. She said Attorney General Janet Reno had been notified of the INS decision and backed it. The immigration agency is a branch of the Justice Department.

Lawyers for the boy's relatives asked Attorney General Janet Reno to reverse the decision and also planned to ask a federal judge for a restraining order. They said the INS was violating its own rules by not allowing the boy to apply for political asylum.

Meissner said the immigration office, having recognized the father's right to speak for his son, would not acknowledge any asylum petition that the boy's great-uncle in Miami might seek to file to keep him in the United States.

January 7, 2000

The fight to keep 6-year-old Elian Gonzalez in the United States shifted to Congress when a House committee subpoenaed the boy, potentially thwarting his return to Cuba next Friday.

The subpoena for the boy to testify February 10 before the House Committee on Government Reform and Oversight could take precedence over the Immigration and Naturalization Service's order that he must return next week to his Cuban father.

January 12, 2000

Attorney General Janet Reno said that a Florida court order granting temporary custody of Elian Gonzalez to his great-uncle in Miami ``has no force or effect'' on a federal government decision that the 6-year-old should be returned to his Cuban father. In a letter to attorneys for Lazaro Gonzalez, the great-uncle who is seeking to keep the boy in this country, Reno also said she sees no reason for reversing last week's Immigration and Naturalization Service ruling.

The question of who has legal authority to speak for the child regarding his immigration status in this country ``remains one of federal, not state, law,'' Reno said. If the relatives would like to challenge the INS decision, she said, the Justice Department is prepared to litigate the matter in federal court. In the meantime, she said that an INS deadline of tomorrow for compliance had been extended and that there is no intention to remove the boy forcibly from the Miami home of his great-uncle.

Reno said that neither the attorneys nor Lazaro Gonzalez have any standing to seek asylum for Elian, since the INS has decided that only his father could represent him. The Justice Department, while rejecting state court intervention, is eager to see the matter brought before a federal court, where it is confident of prevailing.

-PJ

324 posted on 04/10/2002 6:02:10 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too
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To: CyberAnt
IMHO the root of it was power. Their political power based on their corrupt constinguency.

With the slickmeister it also had a lot to do with corruption and vice IMHO ... which is to say it also had to do with power because he must mantain certain power structures to enable the vices.

People like Castro use such weakness and such bargaining to feed their own lust for power. They are all literally making deals with the devil ... that is to say with evil.

Anyhow ... to me, for whatever reasoning, it was criminal, disgusting and a terrible punctuation on our nation IMHO.

325 posted on 04/10/2002 6:04:59 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: KnowYourEnemy
Who's future?? Sorry, not here on FR!!
326 posted on 04/10/2002 6:13:50 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Ah, Luis, more news to make a person cry.

Janet Reno made another SW Florida stop last week...our crack local reporter beamed, and the one "Republican" they chose to include said he'd vote for Reno, that she'd control the "crime problem." What crime problem? This was the local NBC/ABC 11 PM news (same company owns both). I lost my temper on the phone to the station, not good for the cause. Next time I'll stick to reading the facts. This one's on the way via e-mail. Thanks.

327 posted on 04/10/2002 6:24:54 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Tickle Me Pank
So it was Helms who developed wet feet / dry feet? j/k :)

I'm not sure if it was his plan/policy, but he has always been a big supporter of it.

Jesse is rarely given credit for being a true cold war hero.

328 posted on 04/10/2002 6:26:41 PM PDT by TC Rider
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To: FITZ;M. Thatcher;Tickle Me Pank
Oh sure ----don't you remember the Russian boy who asked for asylum and Reagan gave it to him? His parents were going back to the Soviet Union, the boy wanted freedom and he got to stay.

Totally different scenario. The Russian boy was brought to the US when he was very young and grew up in the US. His father, was transferred back to Russia and the son, now 12, who had lived most of his life in the US, and did not remember Russia, decided to apply for asylum.

The 12 year old decided to apply for asylum.

That is the key.

Elian, a 6 year old child, grew up in Cuba, was brought to the US. At 6, can you logically decide which country you wish to live in, with out the input of others.

No you can't. That is why Elian's case is different then the 12 year old Russian.

329 posted on 04/10/2002 7:36:54 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Rebelbase
yep, but got to give any man the benefit of the doubt.

now i know he is a liar, instead of figuring he is one because he is a politician.

330 posted on 04/10/2002 7:39:40 PM PDT by dreadme
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To: Luis Gonzalez
i'll support the conservative in the crowd, win, or lose.

wish i had all your insight to all the behind the scene stuff, and got me a top secret briefing of why king george lies and does stuff exactly oppostite of what he says he stands for.

guess i will have to stay with the rest of the poor downtrodden ones and make my judgements according to what he does and says, unlike you.

must be hard putting up with all the people who are not in the know about the secret stuff, like not calling afathead a terrorist, and demanding that Israel make peace with terrorists.

331 posted on 04/10/2002 7:43:44 PM PDT by dreadme
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To: Marine Inspector
Either way they were both minor children who would be split from biological parents if given asylum and Reagan gave it to the 12 year old. Elian didn't decide on his own to move to the US, his mother did that. I don't think giving a 6 year old asylum is exactly the issue anyhow --I was just pointing out that a Republican president did that.

I think this was a child custody issue, it should have been handled much differently ---without the feds and especially Reno with her record on child custody disputes (Waco). Elian was released to his Miami relatives from the hospital. The father should have gone to court ---like everyone else must ---to gain custody. He may have gained it ---but it would have enabled him the freedom to talk face to face with his own relatives and they could have sat down together to discuss pros and cons of whatever arrangement. The father should have had some freedom while here in the US to really say what he preferred ---and we know that wasn't the case at all with Clinton's and Castro's goons surrounding him at all times.

332 posted on 04/10/2002 7:45:41 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Tickle Me Pank
"Luis, did you have my original post #294 deleted?"

Don't flatter yourself.

333 posted on 04/10/2002 8:21:56 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Hey, the post was deleted, thought I'd ask...
334 posted on 04/10/2002 8:43:11 PM PDT by Tickle Me Pank
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To: CyberAnt
"I thought you and Donato had a falling out?? Did I miss something??"

maybe I missed something. Where would you have gotten information about the status of my friendship with Donato?

335 posted on 04/10/2002 8:45:07 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: bmwcyle
Me too. I got hammered a number of times.

Their battle cry was "The kid needs to be with his father".

336 posted on 04/10/2002 8:52:10 PM PDT by sport
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To: FITZ
Elian was released to his Miami relatives from the hospital.

Actually, Elian's Miami relatives were paid, by INS, to care for Elian until his case was decided.

337 posted on 04/10/2002 10:22:35 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Political Junkie Too
Bump. NICE chron. It really was an act of Castro appeasement. Truly amazing.
Demonize supporters of keeping a child free and snatch him in a govt. raid for the communist dictator in Havana.
338 posted on 04/11/2002 2:12:08 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Does anyone have a copy of Cardinal Law's Boston Pilot editorial about which was pro sending Elian back to Cuba?
339 posted on 04/12/2002 6:06:52 PM PDT by rumplestiltskin
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To: rumplestiltskin
Here is a reprint of it from a Google search.

-PJ

340 posted on 04/12/2002 10:49:54 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too
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