Posted on 04/09/2002 11:30:44 AM PDT by FresnoDA
Well Kim maybe you are finally getting it, the PD doesn't seem to have looked at anyone but DW since a few hours into the case.....WHY?
Anyone know anything about the Van Dam's supposedly living in Arizona, where when and why they left?
Strange that the defense apparently didn't have the photos for the PH
PH Arguments
FELDMAN: I expect to receive 100s of photographs. All I've been told is the price judge. I don't even know how many 100s. But I think one of the gentleman at counsel table I thought told me, but I could be wrong I don't rely on my memory too greatly, that there might be several 100 photographs.
JUDGE: Of?
FELDMAN: Of every scene that has been testified to that would include but not be limited to, Your Honor, the scene at which the body was found, Mr Westerfield's residence, Mr Westerfield's motor home, Mr Westerfield's 4x4 motor home, and the Van Dam residence. And I may be forgetting if there's more but at least that.
JUDGE: Thank you. Counsel?
PROSECUTOR: Photographs have been available for pick up for 1 or 2 days. Defense counsel answered ready when the prelim hearing was scheduled. We certainly were not in a rush to judgment. He appears to be. Photographs already have been provided to him before this. This is not the first set of photographs . The current set of photographs that I believe have already been provided show the Van Dam home and the Westerfield home. Perhaps not the recovery site. Those were the latest ones that were done. These are probably duplications or additional photographs from the other sites that we have.
FELDMAN: If somebody had let my office know that in the past 48 hrs there were photographs available you can bet that I would have had them (snaps fingers) this instant and we would have been ready to proceed. There hasn't been a single communication to my office that I'm aware of that indicated to us that there was additional discovery made. Because every single time this whole week and for that matter ever since the case arose that I received any kind of phone call from Mr Clark or any rep of the DA's office I've immediately gone over. I know the names of the clerks by now I've been over so many items because any time discovery has been made available I've been there to get it right now. This is not an unreasonable request. I'm very surprised to hear that photographs existed since this is the first time I've known of it. It's true we've received perhaps a dozen or so of the digital crime, of the digital photos that were taken at the recovery scene. It's true that we received some Xerox copies and some photos that were taken from the autopsy but not scene photographs your honor
JUDGE: You are certainly entitled to all of those photographs and to examine those photographs. There's no question bout that. I think that's part of the discovery process. The purpose of the prelim hearing as you pointed out was to weed out groundless charges. And I can't imagine that the photographs could contain sufficient evidence for me to decide that these charges are totally groundless so I'm going to exercise my discretion not to grant the continuance and this is the end of the prelim hearing. All right do you wish to argue counsel or what?
Now, we can consider the "bean bag" defense.
Are we to believe that if by chance someone looked in her room, they THOUGHT they might have seen Danielle in bed, but WAIT, come to think of it, it was the bean bag?" That'll work!
Now, we also can consider that Danielle was a "heavy sleeper". OK, so this means she could have been carried out of the house, still sleeping...as only an earthquake could have stirred her? But we've covered our ass again, by saying "she sleeped-walked" That will work also, just in case the police didn't "buy" the heavy sleeper alibi..as in a plan B..go from kidnapped to she sleep-walked out of the house. You gotta give the VD's credit, they are clever...All bases covered, no less.
Then, we find out, that the poor child only sleep-walked a couple of times, by the prince of Liars, Damon himself. And WHERE did she sleep walk too? "The bathroom" Come on people, the VD's can't prove that she sleep-walked to the bathroom. Damon had to testify she sleep-walked somewhere, so the bathroom sounded plausible..tsk, tsk.
The van Dams have more alibi's than swiss cheese has holes.
sw
Good grief, are you taking your "reasoning and logic" lessons from Kim, Hildy? We're making the point that the parents were cleared very early on in a case where there were no witnesses to the abduction. The father in particular has no verifiable alibi from the time Brenda left and when she came home. Note the huge, glaring difference in the Klaas case (wondering also why so few seem able to spell K-l-a-a-s): there were several girlfriends who saw the man take Polly. The man they saw was not Marc Klaas. There are many more differences between the two cases, as well.
THIS is why I can't understand the VDs. Why would they be lying if there is nothing to hide? We already know about things so sordid that we can now only ask, what's even worse than what they've admitted to on the stand, so much worse, in fact, that they're jeopardizing this case with their lack of credibility?
In point of fact, Jaded is not "suggesting," and neither is anyone else. The evidence from the transcripts, the motions and the interviews is yelling that the police were pointed in a certain direction. This has nothing to do with hunches, suspicions, or reading entrails of liberals. It's on paper, it's on videotape, it's there. Deal with it.
If the defense's representative just dropped off the subpeona and had the receptionist (or representative) signed for it, it's possible that there is no requirement for a notification to the DA.. That's not the prosecution's fault.
I mentioned the neighborhood outsiders cuz it seems the vd haters are only focused on the vd and their friends. It'll come out soon enough why they picked on dw first and last me thinks. How much credibility should we give all the news reports?
They are pigs, ~Kim~. Pigs are into all kinds of filth.
BTW, want to Wager the "bean bag in the bed" isn't brought up at the trial? How much money do you have to lose?
sw
I will ignore that untruth..and raise you a fact. Fresno is the one who appears infatuated..he's the one who has been researching and posting his research about swinging: that I won't read btw. Wrong Gal er fella Spec! Besides, everyone, all of us agree with you about the immoral issues. But the judge will say..the only think illegal is the pot smoking. Sorry, but true.
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