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'Genocide' comment hits Turkish-Israeli ties
Jerusalem Post ^ | 4/7/2002 | Metehan Demir

Posted on 04/07/2002 12:37:59 PM PDT by a_Turk

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To: Arleigh
Right from the very birth of their religion, Jews have managed to greatly annoy anyone and everyone they came in contact with. Makes you think...

Clearly it makes you think. What do you think is going on?

41 posted on 04/07/2002 5:13:29 PM PDT by white trash redneck
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To: a_Turk
Turk - your feeble attempts to distort history is contemptible but anticipated. The Turks had a "soft spot" for the Jews based upon their hatred for Christians. Jews naturally took advantage of the Turks' offer and participated in crimes against Christians as well. They were for example the Turks' main middlemen for the business of buying selling and transporting Christian slaves for the Turksih state in and around the mediterranean including north Africa. Very sordid history the Turks have.

Let us hope that Israel has finally realizes that Turkey is no friend to humanity.

42 posted on 04/07/2002 5:18:03 PM PDT by eleni121
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Does that mean the more radical islamic arabs, don't really care for Turkey?
We have been labeled "infidel" by them on a number of occasions. We were really brimming with honor when Usame called us infidels.. LOL!
43 posted on 04/07/2002 6:05:45 PM PDT by a_Turk
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To: eleni121
Eleni wrote:
The Turks had a "soft spot" for the Jews based upon their hatred for Christians. Jews naturally took advantage of the Turks' offer and participated in crimes against Christians as well.

I have seen you post some real nonsence, but this one really takes the cake! With all your supposed knowledge you should have been aware that the Ottoman court was packed with Christians in many an important post!

As boring as you are starting to get, I am not going to let you get away with your endless lies and agitation!
44 posted on 04/07/2002 6:27:40 PM PDT by a_Turk
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To: a_Turk
The truth upsets you I see. I have told you many times that your education is the product of a state controlled system of lies. You have been brainwashed and are in denial. It is so easy to show the many similarities between the Nazis and the Turks but for now this:

The "Kristallnacht" of 1955

The night of 6th to 7th of September 1955, a Turkish mob in Istanbul, organized and directed by state authorities, conducted a vicious pogrom against the Greek Community of Istanbul. As a result:

Sixteen Greeks died (the 90-years old Fr. Mantas was burned alive), and thirty two were severely wounded.

At least two hundred Greek women were raped. Hundreds of Greeks were tortured.

Seventy three churches and twenty three schools were vandalized, burned or destroyed.

One thousand four houses were looted; 4,348 stores, 110 hotels, 27 pharmacies and 21 factories destroyed.

The Patriarchal and other Greek cemeteries were desecrated. The dead bodies of Patriarchs were unburied and profaned.

Relics of Saints were burned or thrown to the dogs.
In 1958-1959, a new anti-greek wave took place. Turkish nationalist students embarked on a campaign of leaflet distribution outside Greek shops, encouraging the boycott of Greek businesses.

In 1964, all Greek nationals, permanent residents of Istanbul (people who were born and lived in Istanbul but retained the Greek citizenship) were expelled from the country on a two-day notice. Eventually, the Greek community of Istanbul shrunk from eighty thousand souls in 1955 to only forty eight thousand in 1965 now less than 2500.

45 posted on 04/07/2002 6:48:50 PM PDT by eleni121
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To: eleni121
You sure seem obsessed by things that happened half a century ago.

We defeated Japan and Germany about fifty years ago too. NOW they are our close allies. Japan especially dear to us.

So it is with Turkey. Whether YOU like them or not, regardless of atrocities they committed decades and decades ago... they ARE now our very close allies, one of the only members of nato that has been willing to put boots on the ground, and their money where their mouths are. The seem to have licked their "religious extremists" problem, cheifly the muslidiot extremists. I think we should try cutting them a little slack.

I am sure you don't want to sound like a supporter of the euroweenies and the palestinian nail salesmen brigade.

The turks are doing good. Let em be.

46 posted on 04/07/2002 7:11:28 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: a_Turk
Emotional times for everyone, lots of different pressures on everyone. The key is the alliance continues.
47 posted on 04/07/2002 7:30:09 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: eleni121
YO, PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR NETHER REGIONS PLEASE!!!
48 posted on 04/07/2002 8:26:30 PM PDT by Aric2000
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To: Robert_Paulson2
It is called the straights of Bosphorus, and runs from the Black Sea, through Istanbul and into the meditaranean. VERY BEAUTIFUL piece of water. The USSR actually built ships in the black sea and we got our first look at them as they ame through the Bosphorus and into the the med. Got LOTS of NICE pictures!! LOL
49 posted on 04/07/2002 8:28:55 PM PDT by Aric2000
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To: Arleigh
I don't remember Israeli women making those "looloooloo" sounds of joy while our people were dying. I can't say I'm feeling real sympathetic to the Palestinians.
50 posted on 04/07/2002 8:35:08 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Jeff Chandler
GREAT QUOTE FROM THAT ARTICLE:

It's time to stop genuflecting to the Arabs, compromising our interests and principles on the absurd assumption that we can't do whatever we need to do — attack Iraq, defend Israel, support freedom in Iran, and openly acknowledge the manifest superiority of the Turkish model for all Muslim nations — without Arab blessings. Afterwards, relations may well improve since, as bin Laden himself put it, "People naturally prefer the strong horse," i.e., everybody loves a winner. We are the winners; let's act like it. We deserve to win, and so do our natural coalition partners: Muslims, Hindus, Jews, and Christians who believe in freedom, progress, and tolerance. Let's all pray together that President Bush knows it too, and will act on it, boldly, and soon.

God help us... a person with a brain!

51 posted on 04/07/2002 8:35:38 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Aric2000
yes... I got impatient waiting for the answers... sorry.

I saw a turkish beach on the Black sea... and a turkish woman in a NICE bikini... that means it's safe for civilized folks to visit.

And it also means that careful transit of oil and product from this "san diego" like area of the world, SHOULD bring about some mega expansion of the economy... given the proper stimulus, and stability of governance.

Looks like they could use a little WESTERN capitalization of the infrastucture too. Says two things... DANGER and OPPORTUNITY to make lotsa money... If I were younger and wealthier... heh heh... a nice place to have a residence.

I like what I have seen on the net. You live there? You should be OUTSIDE if it looks like that at the beach...

52 posted on 04/07/2002 8:59:10 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: weikel
funny too, the guy many of us call Almighty God, was born into a Jewish family... told us to honor the Covenants of God, and such... Mary the virgin, was a jewess.

Jews are NOT perfect. But, who is. It is instructive to consider, one cannot be a jew-hater, without hating Jesus... the apostles and rejecting most of the bible's authors. Another words, the whole foundation in human history for christianity.

53 posted on 04/07/2002 9:15:23 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Robert_Paulson2
I lived there 18 months, it was my job to defend it( the straits of Bosphorus). I was in the US Army at the time.

Turkey is a beautiful country, and the people are wonderful as well. I enjoyed my stay there, and am looking forward at some time in the future to going back and visiting.
54 posted on 04/07/2002 9:22:01 PM PDT by Aric2000
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To: vance
There is no lobby making more noise and doing more whining at the moment than the Muslim and Arab lobbies.

It reminds me of nothing more strongly than a little kid crying, "Mom! Timmy hit me back, make him stop!"

56 posted on 04/07/2002 9:26:52 PM PDT by Dan Day
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To: laconas
Ecevit is a wimp
And hen-pecked by his wife. Swear at times you'd think she's running the country. Especially with her general amnesty crap.

Do you know anything about what eleni121 is writing about?
57 posted on 04/07/2002 10:19:51 PM PDT by a_Turk
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To: laconas
From the Turkish daily News

"Anti-Israeli protests mark the weekend

On the weekend, thousands of people across Turkey participated in anti-Israeli demonstrations to protest the assaults of Israeli forces on the Palestinian people and the siege of Palestinian President Yasir Arafat in Ramallah. Meanwhile, a group of Turkish parliamentarians reached out to Jerusalem to make contacts with Palestinian and Israeli authorities.

In Ankara, about 4,000 people gathered in a downtown square Saturday despite heavy rain, chanting: "Down with Israel!" and burning Israeli and American flags.

In the northwestern Turkish city of Bursa, police detained 23 members of a far-left party who staged an unauthorized protest against Israel, the Anatolia news agency reported.

Police also detained three people in an anti-Israeli demonstration in Istanbul's Taksim Square. A group gathered in the square on Saturday to protest Israel's actions, and as they march to Istiklal Street, police intervened.

A group representing the Kamu-Sen and Egitim-Sen labour unions placed a black wreath at the Israeli General Consulate in Istanbul.

Ecevit regrets 'genocide' accusation against Israel Meanwhile, Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit said Saturday that he regretted having used the word "genocide" earlier this week to describe Israel's campaign in the Palestinian territories.

Turkey typically has good relations with Israel, but Ecevit told a political party meeting Thursday that "genocide is being committed" by Israel against the Palestinians. Ecevit later downplayed his use of the word, saying it had led to interpretations he had not intended.

On Saturday, Ecevit went a step further, expressing regret. "I attach great importance to the people of Israel," Ecevit told reporters. "I wish I hadn't used that upsetting expression, I wish I hadn't caused upset."

Turkey, a predominantly Muslim country, has forged close military ties Israel in recent years. Turkey has also sought to maintain good relations with the Palestinians, who enjoy strong public sympathy here.

Ecevit's speech sparked speculation that the U.S.-backed Israeli-Turkish friendship was buckling under pressure from the Turkish public, which has condemned Israeli sieges in the West Bank. Thousands of Turks have staged anti-Israel demonstrations in the past week, and opposition politicians have called on the government to cancel a recent $668 million tank modernization deal with Israel. "

You cannot keep everybody happy, all the the time. End of story!

59 posted on 04/07/2002 11:34:59 PM PDT by pkpjamestown
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