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Life on Mars hopes raised
BBC News Online ^ | April. 5, 2002 | Dr. David Whitehouse

Posted on 04/05/2002 11:04:40 AM PST by GeneD

Scientists have found "intriguing" new evidence that may indicate there is life on Mars.

An analysis of data obtained by the Pathfinder mission to the Red Planet in 1997 suggests there could be chlorophyll - the molecule used by plants and other organisms on Earth to extract energy from sunlight - in the soil close to the landing site.

Researchers stress their work is in a very preliminary state and they are far from making definite claims.

Even so, the work is attracting much attention in the scientific community and will come under intense scrutiny when it is presented to an astrobiology conference in the US next week.

Dr Carol Stoker, from the American space agency's (Nasa) Ames Research Center, confirmed the findings to BBC News Online but cautioned that they were "not ready for the big time".

Early data

Mars Pathfinder mission touched down in the Ares Vallis region of Mars in July 1997. It took many images of the surrounding area and released a small rover to sample rocks.

A detailed analysis of the images of the landing site now reveals two areas close to Pathfinder that have the spectral signature of chlorophyll.

According to experts it might be highly significant - or could be just a patch of coloured soil.

Dr Stoker's team scrutinised the so-called Superpan, which is a high-resolution, highly processed series of superimposed images produced by Pathfinder's camera.

It is a multispectral panorama of the landing site recorded in 15 regions of the spectrum, and contains a wealth of information about rock types, colours and textures.

Knowing the spectral signature of chlorophyll, the researchers wrote a computer program that systematically scanned the Superpan for any pixels of interest.

Specifically, the program looked for the spectral signature associated with red light absorption by chlorophyll.

Previous searches for evidence of chlorophyll in Pathfinder's pictures were carried out shortly after it landed.

Some tentative indications were seen but they were later dismissed as "possible image misregistration".

Two patches

In Dr Stoker's study six regions of the Superpan matched positive for the chlorophyll signature.

For each of the regions, a full spectrum was plotted out and their exact position in the Superpan was then carefully examined.

All of the detections occurred close to the camera. This is to be expected say the researchers, as these are the areas where the camera has the highest sensitivity and resolution.

Close examination revealed that four of the cases occurred on the Pathfinder spacecraft itself. But two regions showed a chlorophyll signature in the soil around Pathfinder.

Given the controversial nature of their findings and the early stage of the research, the scientists want to hold back any claims about what they may have found until they have done more work and prepared a detailed paper for submission in a scientific journal.


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KEYWORDS: crevolist; mars; spaceexploration
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To: Sabertooth
If there's chlorophyl on Mars, it got there from Earth

Why? Do you think so?

41 posted on 04/05/2002 2:57:24 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: RadioAstronomer
Some Hungarian scientists made a claim of life currently on Mars based on these MGS photos:

Scientists at NASA contend it's an interesting photo of ice melting, who knows? We could spend billions sending a fleet of probes or billions sending humans to solve the mystery. It's a fascinating place.

42 posted on 04/05/2002 2:58:56 PM PST by Brett66
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To: scouse
unusual rock formation deep off Cuba's coast could be a sunken city from a previously unknown ancient civilization.

Atlantis ?

43 posted on 04/05/2002 2:59:04 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: GeneD
Dr Stokers D/A is dropping bits of chlorophyl all over Mars.
44 posted on 04/05/2002 3:00:45 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: DrewsDad
He just hit 4 and his imagination is going wild.

When our daughter was 4, it was a giant squash. She saw it on the Dinasours Show (with Earl, Robbie..etc.) and couldn't shake it. The squash was too scary!

45 posted on 04/05/2002 3:02:57 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: RadioAstronomer
Nothing to get worked up over. Upon a more rigorous examination of the data, it turns out to be only parsley.
46 posted on 04/05/2002 3:03:19 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
it turns out to be only parsley

Would it be worth the trouble to go to Mars for salad garnish?

47 posted on 04/05/2002 3:05:13 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
Would it be worth the trouble to go to Mars for salad garnish?

Save your money and hang out with me. I throw the stuff away, and you can have all you want.

48 posted on 04/05/2002 3:09:23 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: RightWhale
Why? Do you think so? (that if there's chlorophyl on Mars, it got their from Earth)

What do you think the odds are that cholorophyl evolved on Mars first, given that Earth has been much more hospitable to life for over 3 billion years?

What do you think the odds are of cholorophyl evolving independently on two neighboring planets?

We know their are Martian meteorites on the Earth, so it stands to reason that there are Earthian meteorites on Mars.

The odds that blue-green Earthian cyanobacteria could survive the trip are better than the odds for Mars-first or independent cholorphyl evolution.

So: If there is cholorophyl on Mars, it got there from Earth.




49 posted on 04/05/2002 3:10:37 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: RayBob
I was attacked by a goose when I was four! Weird! It really was a nightmarish experience that I won't forget. Maybe my actual experience was somehow vividly communicated to your daughter in her dreams?

Weird!

50 posted on 04/05/2002 3:13:18 PM PST by fire and forget
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To: RadioAstronomer
Thanks!
51 posted on 04/05/2002 3:13:49 PM PST by fire and forget
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To: fire and forget
I was attacked by a goose when I was four! Weird! It really was a nightmarish experience that I won't forget.

When I was 40 I had a nightmare that I was goosed. I think all these events are related. Miss Cleo thinks so too.

52 posted on 04/05/2002 3:15:58 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
Makes one really conscious of the quantum nature of our universe, doesn't it? :)
53 posted on 04/05/2002 3:17:42 PM PST by fire and forget
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To: GeneD
Scientists have found "intriguing" new evidence that may indicate there is life on Mars.

The real question is, "Is there life at the BBC?"

54 posted on 04/05/2002 3:22:49 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Sabertooth
There are already 3 kinds of such substance on earth. Chlorophyll, hemoglobin, and that green blood that some sea creatures have. It isn't unique. Mars could have a similar substance and could have developed it there. They are all based on metal, iron, magnesium, or copper. The one on Mars, if this proves out, could be based on one of those metals or even another. Mars has all the right stuff, could be better, but it's all there.
55 posted on 04/05/2002 3:25:23 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: Brett66
Aren't those pictures of the lake by John Carter's house?
56 posted on 04/05/2002 3:27:18 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: PatrickHenry
. I throw the stuff away, and you can have all you want

Thanks, there's already enough green things growing in my kitchen. Other colors, too. Now, if they discover beef cattle on Mars, that's a different story.

57 posted on 04/05/2002 3:29:06 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
There are already 3 kinds of such substance on earth. Chlorophyll, hemoglobin, and that green blood that some sea creatures have. It isn't unique. Mars could have a similar substance and could have developed it there. They are all based on metal, iron, magnesium, or copper. The one on Mars, if this proves out, could be based on one of those metals or even another. Mars has all the right stuff, could be better, but it's all there.

By "that green blood that some sea creatures have," are you talking about the copper-based blood of cephalopods? Interesting about that... copper-based blood isn't as efficient as iron-based for transporting oxygen and carbon dioxide. So the really smart mollusks, like squids, octipi, and cuttlefish are just about tapped out as far as evolving higher intelligence. Their blood can't support the type of brain needed, because they're all on the brink of oxygen deprivation anyway.

That's one reason so many aquarists fail at keeping cephalopods.. insufficient dissolved oxyegen in the water. Temperature is onther hurdle.

Anyway, your scenario for some sort of parallel evolution of chlorophyl (or something like it) on Mars isn't impossible, but not bloody likely, IMHO.

I think an Earthian contamination scenario is far more compelling.




58 posted on 04/05/2002 3:35:07 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: GeneD
OOOOOOOOOH...... NO,

Another boarder to watch.... more illegal aligns

60 posted on 04/05/2002 3:53:58 PM PST by CRAW
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