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Did the Clintonites buy the 1996 election by regulatorily "looking the other way" for campaign cash?

It's beginning to look like it.

1 posted on 04/05/2002 4:59:57 AM PST by an amused spectator
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To: an amused spectator
I'll bet this commentator is short the market.
2 posted on 04/05/2002 5:04:29 AM PST by JoeFromCA
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I expect this is large enough to make a significant difference in the government's budget as well, via much larger than normal tax deductions.
3 posted on 04/05/2002 5:05:32 AM PST by lepton
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To: an amused spectator
No, No...you have to remember that this was the "largest peace time expansion of the economy." "It's the economy, stupid!". < /sarcasm>

Looks like stoopid was running the economy at that time. dot.com fantasyland. Fantasy? Kind of like the liberals opinion that Klintoon was a great president.

4 posted on 04/05/2002 5:13:39 AM PST by mattdono
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To: an amused spectator
The first I've heard the phrase "Clinton Bubble", I like it, should see it in the history books soon hopefully.
5 posted on 04/05/2002 5:14:48 AM PST by tupac
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To: an amused spectator
"We are going to get confirmation that hundreds of billions of dollars in shareholder capital has been wasted or destroyed," says David Tice, manager of the Prudent Bear fund, which makes bets that certain stocks will fall.

A more accurate assessment would be that much of this "value" never really existed.

When someone invests $1,000 and within a year the stock goes to to $20,000 and then loses all its value, it is invariably reported as a loss of $20,000, as though $20,000 of value ever really existed. The actual "loss," of course is $1,000, plus a reasonable one year return on investment.

This is the type of loss many of the Enron employees suffered, and is is different only in degree from a Vegas gambler who starts with $500, is momentarily up to $50000 and then loses it all.

7 posted on 04/05/2002 5:20:30 AM PST by Restorer
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This is the wrong story. Think about it.

One company exchanges some overpriced paper (stock) for another company's over priced paper. The economy slows down, the market goes down and the value of the paper goes down. At this point everyone is about even since the market value of both companies would have gone down had they not merged.

The best part is that the acquiring company is now required to take a large non-cash tax deduction. Uncle Sam's IRS takes it in the ear.

Imagine. You do a non-cash paper swap and get a real cash break with reduced tax payments.

What a country!

10 posted on 04/05/2002 5:35:04 AM PST by VA Voter
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To: an amused spectator
I guess we need new laws to protect the Govt. from greed...just like they wanna do with the greedy Enron losers. How nice.
11 posted on 04/05/2002 5:36:51 AM PST by Puppage
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I dunno. We couldn't have picked a bigger loser than Bob Dole.
13 posted on 04/05/2002 5:48:23 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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Other major media companies have announced they will follow suit, including Clear Channel, with a $15 billion to $25 billion write-down, and Vivendi Universal, with a $12.3 billion to $13.2 billion write-down.

Isn't Vivendi the parent company to the publisher(s) who gave Bill 'n Hill the multi-million dollar book deals? Also, I recall Vivendi being involved with the TV stations who used "moral message" situations in TV shows to side-step the Public Service Message requirement. (At some point during the Clinton era, it was mandated that all stations had to broadcast Public Service messages -- anti-drug, anti-smoking, etc. The stations involved claimed they did not have to run the Public Service Announcements because their dramas depicted situations delivering the same message -- a charcter says, "Dope is bad for you" qualified as the Public Service Announcement.)

Or maybe I've been reading too much FR before the coffee is ready . . .

16 posted on 04/05/2002 6:00:51 AM PST by reformed_democrat
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Please keep in mind the conventional wisdom, here articulated by PBS. Please note that the following is a syllabus for teaching in the schools.

Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter's opponent in the 1980 election, had nothing but contempt for the idea that Americans should reduce their consumption. He had nothing but disdain for the environmental movement. His optimism (he liked to proclaim it "morning in America," which he frequently described as a "shining city on a hill") made him a popular president among the masses.

It became apparent in hindsight that what had seemed to be a mass frugality and environmental movement in the 1970s had been confined to middle- and upper-middle-class activists. By 1984, "big is better" bumper stickers began to displace those proclaiming "small is beautiful." Yuppies replaced hippies. U.S. News and World Report announced "the old less is more, down-with-materialism atmosphere...has been brushed aside. A flaunt-it-if-you-have-it style is rippling in concentric circles across the land." "Greed is good! Greed will save the U.S.A.!" proclaimed Gordon Gekko in the Academy Award- winning 1987 film, Wall Street. Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, with host Robin Leach deliriously shouting about the "dreams money can buy," started, and became one of the most successful shows in the history of television.

"Reagonomics," the tax policies and "trickle down" theories of Reagan's economists, have been blamed for the massive redistribution of wealth that occurred in the U.S. in the 1980s. National columnist Richard Reeves wrote, "Nine out of ten people got screwed....The richest 10 percent of the nation got richer and paid fewer taxes. The middle class made less money and paid more taxes. The poor got poorer and there were more of them. The money was trickling up, not down." At the end of the Decade of Greed, as some have called it, 33 percent of all personal wealth in the nation was in the hands of 1 percent of its households.

History is still being made, and your guess about how this decade will be viewed by generations to come is as good as ours! Students and viewing party discussion groups, this is a good subject for an essay. Write your predictions for the rest of the 1990s. What name will our decade end up with?


21 posted on 04/05/2002 6:49:10 AM PST by denydenydeny
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To: scholar;mudboy slim;sultan88;conserve-it
Yup.
The SOB cooked the books, alright.

IF the accounting firm handling the Enron debacle is getting hammered as it is?
Whadda ya suppose this administration's people are going to do to the Clintonistas responsible for the condition(s) conducive to the obscene feeding frenzy?
A feeding frenzy which up to just now, had been called, "The Greatest Economy this nation's ever witnessed" -- courtesy of The Greatest Criminal Enterprise the nation ever permitted to gain control?

Many of those people responsible for this boondoggle, btw, still remain employed in our goverment, at that!

Hell, I wonder if anyone will even frame the impending crash as it rightfully should.

What am I saying, anyway.
nawwwwwww...
Of course they won't even ask *The* question.

The Bush administration must know damned well what the gig is; and, that that gig is nearly up.

One can almost hear 'em all whistling past the graveyard, right now.

23 posted on 04/05/2002 7:02:23 AM PST by Landru
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Bill Pace, head of Coalition for the International Criminal Court, an advocacy group, expects all 60 ratifications to be completed by mid-April, the next preparatory commission meetings for the court.

The United States is worried about frivolous law suits from developing countries against U.S. servicemen stationed around the world. The Bush administration has even asked the United Nations whether it could rescind Washington's signature from the treaty, signed by former U.S. President Bill Clinton at the end of his term.

24 posted on 04/05/2002 7:05:07 AM PST by concerned about politics
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Amused...I ain't amused! The Clinton's economy was always a shadow economy starting his second term...why else did Clinton reappoint Greenspan? As Bill O'Reilly says, that man has too much power; he covered for the Clinton's soooo well.
30 posted on 04/05/2002 10:33:20 AM PST by yoe
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Quick question. Was the title of this thread the actual title of the article? I'd be pleasantly surprised if it is so.
34 posted on 04/05/2002 1:12:51 PM PST by rdb3
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