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I am reposting this from another thread: Guys, I dont know if all the people on this forum can see this message, but I will say this to people who will read it: THANK YOU. I am Israeli, a reservist in Air Force, and I am amased at the overwhelming support that people on this forum display for my country. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. USA is a wonderful country, the only true friend and ally Israel has, and it warms my heart to see all the fine people here that show support to our troops, that as of this moment fight the very murderers that killed our women and children on the streets of our cities. Perhaps, with US aid, and after our forces clear the last hideout of terrorists in West Bank, a new leadership will emerge among arabs, that does not seek to destroy us but to coexist peacefully. I dont know whether it will ever happen, but I do know, that we are brothers, and that we can count on you in time of need, as well as you can count on our support in your war on Al-Qaeda murderers. My heart bled and cried for justice when I saw the events of 9.11 on CNN. A year before that terrible tragedy I was standing on the roof of one of the Twins, observing the magestic view of New-York during my trip to USA, to visit my wife's family. The thought that this beautiful city is now scarred by animals in human form made me furious. May your troops have the upper hand in this war, and may they safely return home as victors. USA RULES. From Haifa, with best regards and warm wishes. Shalom! Hamash.
22 posted on 04/05/2002 3:54:18 AM PST by Hamash
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To: Hamash; dennisw; veronica
Shalom! Hamash!

As goes Israel, so goes Judeo-Christian ["Human," that is] Civilization!

You'd better believe it: We are with you, Bro'!

And we will see Israel rid God's Mountains of the blasphemy that presently pollutes and corrupts them.

Be strong -- Shalom! Shalom!

Brian

25 posted on 04/05/2002 4:02:52 AM PST by Brian Allen
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To: Hamash
Thank you for your kind words of friendship. I am sorry you must depend on CNN for your news, and I hope that you will have access to Fox News Channel soon. Be safe.
26 posted on 04/05/2002 4:07:47 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: Hamash
Welcome to FR. Israel has an awesome Air Force, some of the best pilots in the world!
You are among friends here.
28 posted on 04/05/2002 4:26:34 AM PST by Aquamarine
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To: Hamash
Good job! Thanks for finding us here. God bless and keep you and yours. Let's Roll! JL
31 posted on 04/05/2002 4:36:07 AM PST by lodwick
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To: Hamash
Welcome to Free Republic. G-d bless you and your family. I'm sorry you have had to live through so much unrest and pain. I've been to your country and it breaks my heart to see so much blood being shed on the very soil walked on by the Fathers of both our religions. I hate to see the church in Bethlehem used for fighting. I hate to see so many innocent civilians dying. This whole situation is extremely unnerving and you have my endless prayers for peace. Please post more and let us know what is going on with you and your family. I hope you and all your loved ones will be safe.

Psalm 59

Deliver me from my enemies, O G-d;
protect me from those who rise up against me
Deliver me from evildoers
and save me from bloodthirsty men.

See how they lie in wait for me!
Fierce men conspire against me
for no offense or sin of mine, O Lord.
I have done no wrong, yet they are ready to attack me

Arise to help me; look on my plight!
O Lord G-d Almighty, the G-d of Israel,
rouse yourself to punish all the nations;
show no mercy to wicked traitors

O my Strength, I watch for you;
you, O G-d, are my fortress, my loving G-d.

42 posted on 04/05/2002 5:41:45 AM PST by SpookBrat
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To: Hamash
Shalom, my friend.

The following is a long but interesting read:

"Subject: News article re: Israel

March 29, 2002 8:30 a.m.
Postmodern Palestine
The new amorality in the Middle East.

"...here is a postmodern amorality afloat the dividend of years of an American educational system in which historical ignorance, cultural relativism, and well-intentioned theory, in place of cold facts, has reigned.
We see the sad results everywhere in the current discussions of the Middle East and our own war on terror.

Palestinians appeal to the American public on grounds that three or four times as many of their own citizens have died as Israelis.
The crazy logic is that in war the side that suffers the most casualties is either in the right or at least should be the winner.
Some Americans nursed on the popular ideology of equivalence find this attractive.
But if so, they should then sympathize with Hitler, Tojo, Kim Il Sung, and Ho Chi Minh who all lost more soldiers and civilians in their wars against us than we did.

Perhaps a million Chinese were casualties in Korea, ten times the number of Americans killed, wounded, and missing. Are we then to forget that the Communists crossed the Yalu River to implement totalitarianism in the south and instead agree that their catastrophic wartime sacrifices were proof of American culpability?
Palestinians suffer more casualties than Israelis not because they wish to, or because they are somehow more moral but because they are not as adept in fighting real soldiers in the full-fledged war that is growing out of their own intifada.

We are told that Palestinian civilians who are killed by the Israeli Defense Forces are the moral equivalent of slaughtering Israeli civilians at schools, restaurants, and on buses.
That should be a hard sell for Americans after September 11, who are currently bombing in Afghanistan to ensure that there are not more suicide murderers on our shores.
This premise hinges upon the acceptance that the suicide bombers' deliberate butchering of civilians is the same as the collateral damage that occurs when soldiers retaliate against other armed combatants.

In fact, the tragic civilian deaths on the West Bank make a less-compelling argument for amorality than the one revisionists often use in condemning the Dresden, Hamburg, and Tokyo bombings.
Then British and American planes knowingly incinerated civilians in their quests to shut down the warmaking potential of the Third Reich and imperial Japan.
Unlike what the B-17s and B-29s did to stop fascist murdering on a global scale, the Israelis are not carpet-bombing indiscriminately. Rather they are doing precisely what we ourselves were forced to do in Mogadishu:
Fighting a dirty urban war against combatants who have no uniforms, shoot from houses, and are deliberately mixed in with civilians.
So far the Israelis have probably killed fewer civilians in a year of fighting on the West Bank than our trapped soldiers did in two days of similar gun battles in Somalia.

An ignorance of historical context is also critical for such postmodern revisionism.
If the conflict is due to the Israeli occupation of the West Bank, then the first three wars for the survival of Israel itself must be conveniently ignored.
If there is a push for the exchange of land for peace, then we must overlook that some in the Arab world who have suggested just that bromide in the past three decades were either assassinated or executed.
And if we accept that both sides are equally culpable for the current killing, we must forget that less than two years ago the Palestinians rejected an Israeli offer to return 97 percent of the West Bank, along with other major concessions assuming that unleashing the present intifada could get them still more.

Facts mean nothing.
The dispute is purportedly over the principle of occupation but next-door Syria holds far more Lebanese land than Israel does the West Bank.
The dispute is supposedly over ethnic intolerance and gratuitous humiliation but Kuwait, quite unlike Israel, ethnically cleansed their entire country of Palestinians after the Gulf War.
The dispute is said to be about treating the "other" fairly but Syria and Iraq summarily expelled over 7,000 Jews after the 1967 war, stole their property, and bragged that they had rid their country of them.
The upcoming Arab Summit could spend weeks just investigating the Arab murder and persecution of its own people and Jews.

Multicultural distortion also appears in a variety of strange ways.
Palestinian spokesmen harangue Americans about their tilt toward Israel. Yet they also speak in grandiose terms of an "Arab summit" and a global Islamic brotherhood.
Apparently, fellow Muslims, Arabs and kindred autocracies are supposed to support Palestinians unquestioningly because of religious, cultural, and political affinities.
Yet we multicultural Americans are not entitled to exhibit similar sympathy for Israel, which like us and unlike Mr. Arafat's regime, is a Western, democratic, open, and free society.

Why do such bankrupt arguments find resonance?
I think the causes have now permeated well beyond a few coffeehouse theorists blabbering away in Cambridge or Palo Alto.
Rather it is because we live in a society in which playground fights in our schools are now often adjudicated by concepts such as "zero tolerance" and "equal culpability."
Rather than exercising moral judgment and investing time and energy in such investigation our school principals simply expel any student caught fighting, as if the bully and his victim occupy the same moral ground.

Our schoolbooks devote more space to Hiroshima than to the far, far greater casualties on Okinawa.
Students are not told that the two tragedies are connected as if the American bombing to prevent an enormous bloodbath on the Japanese mainland is somehow not a direct result of the Japanese imperial military's efforts a few weeks earlier to unleash 2,000 kamikazes, and through suicide attacks and banzai charges kill every American (and tens of thousands of civilians) on the island rather than surrender.

Rather than do the hard work of learning about the historical relationships, conflicts, and similarities between Islamic and Christian culture, East and West, and Europe and Asia, our teachers simply avoid the trouble.
They claim that all cultures are just "different," and thereby hope to avoid the hard and unpleasant questions that might prompt hurt feelings and eventual enlightenment, rather than ensure their own immediate raises and promotions.
No wonder I have had college students who affirm that British imperialism in India was no different from Hitler's attempt at dominance in Europe as if there were gas chambers in New Delhi, as if the Nazi "super-race" might have sought to eradicate the caste system, or as if Gandhi's civil disobedience would have worked against Himmler.

I do not think there is some grand postmodern scheme afloat to undermine the legacy of empiricism, history, and logic.
Rather the spread of such amorality is simply a result of our own sloth and timidity and perhaps ultimately the dangerous dividend of an increasingly affluent and cynical society.
Teachers, professors, and reporters embrace such dubious notions because they either bring rewards or at least the satisfaction of being liked and in the majority.

It is also less demanding to watch television than read, safer to blame or praise both than investigate the culpability of one, neater to create rather than recall facts, and better to feel good about oneself by adopting platitudes of eternal peace and universal tolerance than to talk honestly of evil, war, and the tragic nature of man.
When you combine such American laziness and lack of intellectual rigor with worries over oil and anti-Semitism, then our baffling nonchalance about the current war against Israel begins to make sense.

Moral equivalence, conflict-resolution theory, utopian pacifism, and multiculturalism are, of course, antirational and often silly.
But we should also have the courage to confess that they bring on, rather than avoid, conflict and killing, and breed rather than eradicate ignorance. In short, they are not ethical ideas at all, but amoral in every sense of the word."

Victor Davis Hanson, author most recently of Carnage and Culture: Landmark Battles in the Rise of Western Power.

53 posted on 04/05/2002 5:59:36 AM PST by COB1
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To: Hamash
Welcome aboard. Don't be a stranger.
55 posted on 04/05/2002 6:04:10 AM PST by conserve-it
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To: Hamash, all
Thanks for your post Hamash.

Bunny et al. Thanks for a heart warming thread. Love all y'all.

82 posted on 04/05/2002 7:38:12 AM PST by amom
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To: Hamash
Good morning, Hamash, I am so glad you found us, and so glad you reposted your beautiful message from another thread. A very warm and hearty welcome to you and hope that you will return as often as you can.
83 posted on 04/05/2002 7:39:19 AM PST by Billie
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185 posted on 04/05/2002 10:21:46 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Hamash
HI Hamash ! It is so nice to meet you ! Thank you Hamash for serving our country. The Air Force is fantastic!
My heart breaks for Israel too.
God bless you Hamash and I pray for America, our troops and Israel always.

Please come and visit here often.

207 posted on 04/05/2002 10:50:33 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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