[Phantom Lord]

Speaking of models. I remember (cant remember his name at this moment) a NASA scientist who left NASA to pursue global warming issues and develop computer models for such. His models predicted global warming at extrodinary rates and he also became the toast of the enviroleft and global warming cloud. There was one small problem with his models though... THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE THE OCEANS!

His global warming models left 75% of the earth out of the equation!

And further on models, if their ability is to be believed, please explain to us why when they are feed KNOWN data from past years weather they are not able to produce results that are close to what happened?

[cogitator]

And further on models, if their ability is to be believed, please explain to us why when they are feed KNOWN data from past years weather they are not able to produce results that are close to what happened?

You mean like this?

Forcings and Chaos in Global Climate Change

Read it and see if you think the models can't reproduce the past accurately.