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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
If a State self-determines its way out of the Union, is that okay?

As I said before, if they can form a state militia that can topple the greatest military power in world history, then they can do whatever the heck they want. Who's gonna stop them? However, the laws of the United States still do not allow it. "Self-determination" means the power to choose your representatives in government, not moral relativism.

I see no apples, nor oranges, I merely refuted your single point rebuttal to my question. If despotism is a "moral" prerequisite, of which there are more than one, and the British Empire didn't qualify, that's still an unmet prerequisite.

Who said you, or any group of people, had to meet all moral prerequisites to be justified in what they do? That's nonsense. You don't have to have every reason or X number of reasons to do what's right...in the case of the American Revolution, just one good reason was enough.
122 posted on 04/03/2002 12:21:44 PM PST by dwbh1342
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To: dwbh1342
As I said before, if they can form a state militia that can topple the greatest military power in world history, then they can do whatever the heck they want. Who's gonna stop them?

Can you imagine a civil war today - with nukes & all...

242 posted on 04/03/2002 5:55:20 PM PST by GregoryFul
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