bin LADEN BIG MUST TALK OR ELSE

New York Post ^ | 4/02/02 | NILES LATHEM

[kattracks]

April 2, 2002 -- WASHINGTON - Osama bin Laden's top operational commander, who was captured four days ago in Pakistan, will face trial before a U.S. military tribunal unless he cooperates with investigators, The Post has learned.

Top U.S. military and law-enforcement officials confirmed last night that they are certain Abu Zubaydah, a 30-year-old Gaza Palestinian who is considered the No 3. man in al Qaeda, is in custody in Pakistan.

[Young Rhino]

Run a little electricity into that groin injury...but rub some salt into it first...he will talk.

[RCW2001]

The only question to ask to George W & Company....where's Osama???? No other question!

That WAS the mission, right?

So where the hell is he?

Send 'Rummy' out to another one of his 'comedy skits' for cspan...but...WHERE'S OSAMA???

This American..wants to know???

[piasa]

The only question to ask to George W & Company....where's Osama????

I don't know, and quite frankly, don't care, if his organization consists of a him, a billy goat, and two blind guys with large sticks... but have you seen an 'Osama' video lately? I haven't. Wonder why?

That WAS the mission, right?

No, the mission was to go after al-Qeada and international terrorist groups, and break them up financially as well as physically. Just getting Osama would do nothing. Osama was, after all, someone else's pupil... he was not the sole top dog like old Adolf. He is a part of the mission, but not even a critical part.

So where the hell is he?

Let me know when he releases his next video.

Send 'Rummy' out to another one of his 'comedy skits' for cspan...but...WHERE'S OSAMA???

Go find him yourself, smartypants.

You might have to get through all of the important people in his organization first, though. Those are the guys who can actually harm you.

Imagine the civil war with a twist: instead of using armies, the Union arranges a raid and captures the president of the confederacy: do you think they would have given up? The same goes for the north.

Their army and economy had to be beat. No one ever needed to beat their president. SOME people might give up with the loss of a leader, but that varies from organization to organization, country to country. Not every group will fold without the figurehead to follow. But no group can function without followers.

[xm177e2]

Osama is either dead, or alive. If he's alive, he's either in Afghanistan or outside Afghanistan. Does that answer your question?

[RCW2001]

I can't fault you for being honest....because you have the answer. Nobody knows...which returns to my original diatribe. Why the 'giddiness' by the 'powers that be'? They have won 'NOTHING"...not a thing! But yet they are acting as such...

[nopardons]

Since you don't understand war, of any kind, let alone tactics, operations, nor anything else, perhaps you should just read the articles, and not post . " GIDDY " ? I don't see anyone, let aone Donasld Rimsfeld, acting " giddy ". Oh, and if you don't think ( do you think , or should that be can you think ? ) the USA hasn't deterered, stopped, and or done a whole lot to al Qaeda, the Talibam, and those who pull ther strings and fund them, perhaps you can tell us how may more human /plan bombs have gone off since 9/11 here, and how many Americans, on American soil have been killed by the crazies. Ummmmmmmmmm ... the correct answer is ... NONE !

We seem to have done some measure of good . Keep your day job, you aren't ready for " PRIME TIME " , a high government job, nor anything in diplomacy, the military, or intelligence.

[xm177e2]

Why the 'giddiness' by the 'powers that be'? They have won 'NOTHING"...not a thing!

They just scored a high-level commander. Progress is irregular and difficult to gauge, but we are moving forward.

[BullDog108]

Actually, the INS is looking for folks of his calibre. ;^)

[BunnySlippers]

Where's Mullah Omar for cripes sake! He SHOULD have been a slam dunk to find.

[nopardons]

I think that the INS has enough of his type, already. ; ^ )

[RCW2001]

GIDDY " ? I don't see anyone, let aone Donasld Rimsfeld, acting " giddy ".

I suggest that you, my friend, pull up the feed from 4/1/02 press briefing of the Secretary of Defense and Joint Chiefs Chairman Richard Myers and tell me that this media circus was none other than 'giddy' where one of the major theme's of the press conference was that good Chairman Myers may have offended his wife during the previous press conference.

All fun and games huh?? So where's Osama and his henchman. Oh sure...nothing has happened since the mobilization, but nothing has struck this soil heretofore...time is on their side, why hurry it.

Again...where IS he? You, all military might and know how...can't answer that, now can you?

[piasa]

Hey, we got his kid. Killed 300 terrorists and enemy soldiers in the battle at the fort alone, right after laying wast to a larger number at Kunduz... killed a few thousand other enemy soldiers and terrorists... have bunches in jails, cut off a consideable chunk of money to them... eliminated all terrorist training camps in Afghanistan... restored some semblence of life to an entire country whose people had thought they were utterly hopeless...stopped such fun practices as soccer stadium executions, and hand-lopping, stopped a long list of planned attacks on US embassies, ships and installations, some of which were only days away from being executed and were already in motion as was the case in Singapore and Rome...

And last time I checked, we're still alive and kicking, which means al-Qeada hasn't achieved its objectives.

; )

I like how people who complain, never offer their solutions.

[piasa]

What do youy mean, nothing has struck our soil before?

Did you forget the first world trade center bombing? was was that, a love pat?

Did you know that the joker behind that had a organization of his very own, operating right in the US and it was involved in car bombing, assasination of muslim whistleblowers, fraud, etc? Jamaat al Fuqra. They had pretty much free rein all through the last decade, and were dabbling in aviation education as well. They were part of a Pakistani organization related to al-Qeada.

In fact, many of those terrorists who hit us on 9/11 were here for years, while Bill Clinton and friends were going after a security guard in Atlanta over a pipe bomb that wasn't his, and placing restrictions and stumbling block sin the way to make investigation of muslim extremist group s and their 'not-for-profit' extensions more difficult. Their activities aren't the scale of 9/11 but they were attacks against the US.

The Egyptian pilot who sent everyone on his plane into the drink was an incident right off of our coast. Flight 800 has some huge question marks around it, though officially "an accident" there had been a publicized threat against aircraft.

A Pakistani was caught trying to get over the border up in the Vancouver area, I believe, with a large quantity of explosives. There was a strike planned for an airport in California. There are lists of incidents here in the US from assorted groups, with cells in Colorado, Florida, California, Oklahoma, etc. Try picking up the book 'Jihad in America' sometime.

The problem is enormous because this country had dismantled some of its best tools for dealing with this kind of terrorism. The country, quite simply, had SLACKED OFF.

The state of the US military was a disaster as it had been allowed to decay almost without obstruction, for years. It still needs some work, some problems ar political and politicians in congress won't go along with the fix.

[Dales]

That WAS the mission, right?

Not by any description of the mission I have ever heard the administration give.

[Caipirabob]

U.S. Military Strength Bass-O-Matic got him!

It's Osama-licious!

[Coop]

You're quite the moron.

[Boss_Jim_Gettys]

"So where's Osama..."

Are you Senator Dasshole or just following the talking points?

The answer to your question is WHO CARES? He has not put out a video since December. Therefore, he is either dead or in a cave soiling one Depends after another. In either case he seems to have become irrelevant.

Meanwhile, we are slaughtering the remaining al Qaeda in Afghanistan, rounding up others in Pakistan and elsewhere, there have been no attacks since 9/11, and you think we are losing because we haven't captured a rich, Saudi coward who sends other to their deaths while he hides far away from the action. A-f'in-mazing.

[1Old Pro]

Zubaydah is being held at a secret location in Pakistan and will not be sent to the U.S. detention facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, because the United States does not want him in contact with other Afghan war prisoners.

WRONG! The United States doesn't want the hand wringing liberals to complain about the conditions of his detention. Out of sight, more "intensive" procedures can and must be used to interrogate this mass murderer.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

Sources told The Post that Zubaydah is being held at a secret location in Pakistan and will not be sent to the U.S. detention facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, because the United States does not want him in contact with other Afghan war prisoners.

Great idea!